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Title: All clear on the signals front......
Post by: Ralph Damren on March 25, 2020, 09:15:32 AM
While we are all warned about touching our face during these days, it appears that while signals #23, 24,28 & 37 touch the head they do not touch the face. While curtailing the coronavirus is at the forefront of my mind, football is still wedged in my brain. My apologies to any of you that may find this post in bad taste.
Title: Re: All clear on the signals front......
Post by: ElvisLives on March 25, 2020, 10:06:34 AM
While we are all warned about touching our face during these days, it appears that while signals #23, 24,28 & 37 touch the head they do not touch the face. While curtailing the coronavirus is at the forefront of my mind, football is still wedged in my brain. My apologies to any of you that may find this post in bad taste.

For NCAA, 26 should touch the face, after all, it is "Hands to the Face," not "Hands to the Head."

But, in truth, no signal need actually touch the face or exposed head.  Just get close to the face, and touch only the hat for those above the face.

Yeccchh.  That tasted terrible. :P
Title: Re: All clear on the signals front......
Post by: TexDoc on April 15, 2020, 09:44:12 AM
While we are all warned about touching our face during these days, it appears that while signals #23, 24,28 & 37 touch the head they do not touch the face. While curtailing the coronavirus is at the forefront of my mind, football is still wedged in my brain. My apologies to any of you that may find this post in bad taste.

This begs the question I have wondered about since so many stadiums have the R mic'd now.  What is the purpose of signals?  Serious.  Click on the mic, tell us what happened, no need for signals, done.  But of course we still need signals for anything affecting the clock.
Title: Re: All clear on the signals front......
Post by: VALJ on April 15, 2020, 09:54:52 AM
This begs the question I have wondered about since so many stadiums have the R mic'd now.  What is the purpose of signals?  Serious.  Click on the mic, tell us what happened, no need for signals, done.  But of course we still need signals for anything affecting the clock.

I'd assume that part of it is because "that's how we've always done it". 

Plus, you'd still need the signals if the mike goes out or you're working somewhere without one.  Better to give signals that aren't needed than not give signals when they are.
Title: Re: All clear on the signals front......
Post by: AlUpstateNY on April 15, 2020, 12:57:37 PM
While we are all warned about touching our face during these days, it appears that while signals #23, 24,28 & 37 touch the head they do not touch the face. While curtailing the coronavirus is at the forefront of my mind, football is still wedged in my brain. My apologies to any of you that may find this post in bad taste.

Thanks for clarifying that Ralph, as you suggest NO  signal, as pictured on pages 94 & 95 of the NFHS Rule Book, shows any touching of the face.

Although some sections of the Country apparently offer audio assistance for Referee penalty signals, I suspect that is a distinct minority of locations, and visual communications, via signals, will persist, for some time, as the primary communication to teams and spectators.
Title: Re: All clear on the signals front......
Post by: Ralph Damren on April 23, 2020, 12:29:33 PM
This begs the question I have wondered about since so many stadiums have the R mic'd now.  What is the purpose of signals?  Serious.  Click on the mic, tell us what happened, no need for signals, done.  But of course we still need signals for anything affecting the clock.

Signals in baseball are said to have originated back in the 1800's to aid a player named Hoye who was deft. I usually have closed-caption on when watching TV , but can still hear the coaches and their praise  ;D from the sidelines  ;) !
Title: Re: All clear on the signals front......
Post by: bama_stripes on April 24, 2020, 07:30:12 AM
Signals in baseball are said to have originated back in the 1800's to aid a player named Hoye who was deft. I usually have closed-caption on when watching TV , but can still hear the coaches and their praise  ;D from the sidelines  ;) !

Maybe so, maybe no...

https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2012/01/did-umpires-develop-hand-signals-because-of-deaf-player-dummy-hoy.html