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Title: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: NNDman on December 04, 2021, 10:13:20 PM
Hopefully I know what I'm doing so everyone can witness this. On face value it doesn't look like it to me. Of course we can't hear if anything was said to result in such a penalty being called. Happened in today's Class 5 semifinal in Virginia:
Title: Re: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: NNDman on December 04, 2021, 10:15:24 PM
Here's the video link:  https://twitter.com/i/status/1467233438990278659
Title: Re: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: CalhounLJ on December 05, 2021, 08:29:31 AM
Yeah, I'm not getting into refbashing mode based on that. That's like trying to make a call looking at a still photo. I need context. If the official threw it, I'm going with him.
Title: Re: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on December 05, 2021, 08:34:07 AM
Yeah, I'm not getting into refbashing mode based on that. That's like trying to make a call looking at a still photo. I need context. If the official threw it, I'm going with him.
Have to agree here.  No real context to what was potentially being said while player was looking down at defender.  Official was very close and may well have heard verbalized what resulted in the flag being thrown.  Without more info, no issue with this call.
Title: Re: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: AlUpstateNY on December 05, 2021, 09:12:37 AM
Have to agree here.  No real context to what was potentially being said while player was looking down at defender.  Official was very close and may well have heard verbalized what resulted in the flag being thrown.  Without more info, no issue with this call.

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Title: Re: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: bossman72 on December 05, 2021, 11:26:00 AM
Assuming the runner said nothing, this is not a spike and should not be a foul.
Title: Re: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: HLinNC on December 05, 2021, 06:14:39 PM
And the purpose in posting this worthless video clip was?
Title: Re: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: Ralph Damren on December 06, 2021, 05:10:41 AM
IMHO, we are paid to see fouls and HEAR fouls.  ^flag  We don't see a foul and we can't hear what the official may have heard , I give my vote to the  z^.
Title: Re: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on December 06, 2021, 05:44:03 AM
Assuming the runner said nothing, this is not a spike and should not be a foul.
Assume and assuming are not words in our rulebook.   ::)
Title: Re: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: KWH on December 06, 2021, 03:27:01 PM
IMHO, we are paid to see fouls and HEAR fouls.  ^flag  We don't see a foul and we can't hear what the official may have heard , I give my vote to the  z^.

I completely agree with Ralph
Title: Re: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: refjeff on December 06, 2021, 04:53:05 PM
Nothing seen in the video is UNS.
Title: Re: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: PABJNR on December 07, 2021, 05:12:54 AM
We don’t know if the player said anything or also we don’t know how many times the player had a talk too by officials in the contest. 


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Title: Re: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: Bubba Ump on December 10, 2021, 12:31:39 PM
The one thing to take into consideration, especially this time of year, is did the player "earn" the foul.  I get to work this weekend and I'd like to think its because of all my hard work and dedication.  Add my time up and I don't even come within a hundreth of the time the players and coaches have put in.  I always try to remember that when I take the field...  Great throw, great catch, good run after catch vs bad defense.  It should take a whole lot more to reward team B for not doing their job. 
Title: Re: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: Etref on December 10, 2021, 12:42:58 PM
Based solely on the small clip… I got nothing, no foul
Title: Re: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: KWH on December 11, 2021, 01:59:17 AM
And the purpose in posting this worthless video clip was?

Exactly - This post is lower than   :puke:

Some jack wagon on the web recorded this with his new cell phone off the TV and then makes his assumption of what he "thinks" might have happened?
For all we know if there was a flag it may have been for an illegal shift or 12 on the defense?  And half the video is watching the flight of the ball?
sorry but nothing at all to comment on here, nothing at all.
Title: Re: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on December 11, 2021, 07:49:05 AM
And the purpose in posting this worthless video clip was?
We don’t know if the player said anything or also we don’t know how many times the player had a talk too by officials in the contest. 
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Agree with previous posts.  Since most USC's are more verbal than anything, and most follow one or more prior warnings, I also find a "silent movie" 0% informative or constructive to use as the basis for commenting on the call.
Title: Re: Unsportsmanlike conduct? what do you think
Post by: Ralph Damren on December 11, 2021, 08:32:35 AM
SOME APPORIATE SAYINGS...

"Sticks and stones may brake my bones, but names can never hurt me"...PF or USC  ^flag

"See no evil, hear no evil, say no evil" good motto for most of world  :) :) :)

" See evil  ^flag , hear evil  ^flag , say no to evil  ^talk " good motto for  z^ z^ z^