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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: JDM on December 16, 2022, 12:23:59 PM

Title: DOF Philosophy
Post by: JDM on December 16, 2022, 12:23:59 PM
I've been advised that we should give more latitude and not be too technical in calling DOF on DB's. To that end, good NC on this play?
Title: Re: DOF Philosophy
Post by: ElvisLives on December 16, 2022, 12:29:25 PM
Correct no call, especially considering this snapper kept pushing the ball forward. Something else we need to get stopped.
Title: Re: DOF Philosophy
Post by: DallasStripes on December 16, 2022, 06:38:36 PM
Correctly not called in the image you provided.


I think in situations where you have a completely stationary defender lined up too close who might have a finger / part of the helmet technically in the neutral zone, that's when we want to be lenient.  Alternatively, if a defender makes a move forward into such a position just prior to the snap, we do not want to offer any leniency in that instance.
Title: Re: DOF Philosophy
Post by: bossman72 on December 17, 2022, 11:44:47 AM
Good no call.  Warn the DL and if the center is moving the ball up, warn him too.
Title: Re: DOF Philosophy
Post by: TxBJ on December 17, 2022, 09:17:50 PM
Good no call.  Warn the DL and if the center is moving the ball up, warn him too.

Not disagreeing, but he is asking about the DB's, not the DL.
Title: Re: DOF Philosophy
Post by: bossman72 on December 18, 2022, 07:40:06 PM
Not disagreeing, but he is asking about the DB's, not the DL.

Oh!  I misread.

I think if the ball was not moved up by the center, we should bang this for DOF.  His head is completely past the back of the ball.  However, try to yell to the DB to back up to get him out of there if you can.

If the ball was moved up by the center and the LOS should be the 30, then I agree, good no call, but be sure to warn the DB to look at the ball.  (and warn the center).
Title: Re: DOF Philosophy
Post by: JDM on January 10, 2023, 11:49:57 AM
Not disagreeing, but he is asking about the DB's, not the DL.

Yes, the DB covering receiver #2. Ball was not moved up, BTW.
Title: Re: DOF Philosophy
Post by: ElvisLives on January 10, 2023, 12:44:22 PM
Ball was not moved up, BTW.

Yes, it was. I watched this game, and this specific snapper pushed the ball forward about the length of the ball on virtually every down. That is evidenced on this down by the fact that TV's LOS (the black line) is entirely behind the ball - heck, it is some 4" behind the ball. I believe they normally place the back edge of their line on the forward end of the ball, when the ball is spotted. But, even if TV places the forward edge of their line at the forward end of the ball, for the ball to be where it is in this picture, it had to have been moved forward, by more than the length of the ball. And this snapper did that, consistently. And that is something that needs to be stopped.