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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: Fatso on November 03, 2023, 09:43:11 AM

Title: 1 second left on clock - Is it possible to get a snap off after RFP whistle?
Post by: Fatso on November 03, 2023, 09:43:11 AM
A completes a pass for 1st down.  During the temporary clock stoppage for 1st down, there's an injury for B player.  With one second left on game clock, assuming A is at the line in formation - is it possible to snap the ball after RFP sounds?   I guess the snapper would need to snap right when he hears the RFP.......   

I don't think there's a hard rule, but wondering if there's a general standard that's followed. (like in NBA, 0.3 secs is minimum to get a shot off)

Title: Re: 1 second left on clock - Is it possible to get a snap off after RFP whistle?
Post by: CalhounLJ on November 03, 2023, 09:55:24 AM
A completes a pass for 1st down.  During the temporary clock stoppage for 1st down, there's an injury for B player.  With one second left on game clock, assuming A is at the line in formation - is it possible to snap the ball after RFP sounds?   I guess the snapper would need to snap right when he hears the RFP.......   

I don't think there's a hard rule, but wondering if there's a general standard that's followed. (like in NBA, 0.3 secs is minimum to get a shot off)

I say yes. if the snapper is listening for the whistle, and snaps the ball on the RFP whistle instead of the snap count, it's possible.
Title: Re: 1 second left on clock - Is it possible to get a snap off after RFP whistle?
Post by: Ralph Damren on November 03, 2023, 10:14:05 AM
While all A players need to be set for a second before the snap, their set can come before the RFP. On fields that still have a horn that sounds with 0:00, preventive officiating may
include : "PLAY thru the horn, play thru the horn!!".
Title: Re: 1 second left on clock - Is it possible to get a snap off after RFP whistle?
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on November 03, 2023, 10:15:27 AM
I say yes. if the snapper is listening for the whistle, and snaps the ball on the RFP whistle instead of the snap count, it's possible.


I'd agree.   If the snapper immediately snaps the ball at the sound of the whistle I would say we've got a good play.  That being said, we always stress that our timing should remain consistent throughout the game with the same consistent "dead time" before RFP's
Title: Re: 1 second left on clock - Is it possible to get a snap off after RFP whistle?
Post by: lawdog on November 03, 2023, 11:22:20 AM
While all A players need to be set for a second before the snap, their set can come before the RFP. On fields that still have a horn that sounds with 0:00, preventive officiating may
include : "PLAY thru the horn, play thru the horn!!".

A question I always ask the timer before the game so I can get them to turn the darn thing off!!!  This isn't basketball...
Title: Re: 1 second left on clock - Is it possible to get a snap off after RFP whistle?
Post by: Fatso on November 03, 2023, 11:47:32 AM
While all A players need to be set for a second before the snap, their set can come before the RFP. On fields that still have a horn that sounds with 0:00, preventive officiating may
include : "PLAY thru the horn, play thru the horn!!".
Great advice.
Title: Re: 1 second left on clock - Is it possible to get a snap off after RFP whistle?
Post by: bama_stripes on November 04, 2023, 08:48:22 AM
It’s not only possible, but well-coached teams practice just such a situation.  I’ve had this on multiple occasions.
Title: Re: 1 second left on clock - Is it possible to get a snap off after RFP whistle?
Post by: KWH on November 05, 2023, 02:40:28 PM
I say yes. if the snapper is listening for the whistle, and snaps the ball on the RFP whistle instead of the snap count, it's possible.

I agree with Calhoun