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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: mhez141 on November 04, 2023, 07:15:34 AM
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A's QB going for 2 point try. QB rolls out to pass but tucks and runs for corner pylon. B hits QB right at the one. QB jumps and as he is airborne stretches ball out. His next body part is down OOB.
Question is, as player is airborne and the ball stretched out what constituents the try good;
Part of ball crosses over pylon or does all the ball have to be inside the pylon?
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A properly placed pylon is both OOB and behind the plane of the goal line. If any part of the ball touches or goes over any part of the pylon before the runner touches OOB, it’s a TD.
This play is a prime example of why the wings need to be on the GL, but also have enough depth to allow them to accurately judge the position of the ball.
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NFHS differs from other codes as in NFHS "The Goal Line Extended" can only apply if the runner is ALSO touching inbounds.
Rule 2-26-3 and CASEBOOK 2.26.3
All of this can be confusing so, In 2020, Matt Sumstine made a great 19:49 minute video that explains, in depth, the difference between the Codes
It is an excellent training video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXuB1_36_d4
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I watched that youtube link you provided. I didn't realize this one rule: if a player is touching inbounds in either the endzone or in the field of play, and the ball crosses the goal line extended then it's a TD. So - let's say a player catches a pass and is dragging his foot inbounds at the 2 yard line and he sticks the ball past the goal line extended it's a TD? (even if the ball is outside the pylon at all times).
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I watched that youtube link you provided. I didn't realize this one rule: if a player is touching inbounds in either the endzone or in the field of play, and the ball crosses the goal line extended then it's a TD. So - let's say a player catches a pass and is dragging his foot inbounds at the 2 yard line and he sticks the ball past the goal line extended it's a TD? (even if the ball is outside the pylon at all times).
Based on your description both boxes are checked.
The goal line extended goes off into infinity if, and only if, the runner is touching inbounds (2-26-3)
If, while touching inbounds, the runner holds the ball over the Goal Line extended (2.26-3 SITUATION)
The result of the play as your described it, is a Touchdown. ^good
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Based on your description both boxes are checked.
The goal line extended goes off into infinity if, and only if, the runner is touching inbounds (2-26-3)
If, while touching inbounds, the runner holds the ball over the Goal Line extended (2.26-3 SITUATION)
The result of the play as your described it, is a Touchdown. ^good
Wild... It said in ncaa and nfl, player would need to be touching inbounds in the endzone or goal line. Only NFHS includes touching inbounds in the field of play also.,..
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No way I'm calling this a touchdown. This is a bad interpretation of the goal line extended.
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No way I'm calling this a touchdown. This is a bad interpretation of the goal line extended.
It's not a bad interpretation. It's a bad rule. The way it's shown in the video is correct.
Should have to touch the ground in the end zone to extend the GL. I like the NFL rule the best.
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It's not a bad interpretation. It's a bad rule. The way it's shown in the video is correct.
Should have to touch the ground in the end zone to extend the GL. I like the NFL rule the best.
Yes, you are correct. I stand corrected. It'a a valid interpretation of a horribly written rule. I should not be surprised.
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The video was created to get good conversation going as this is one of those situations which is unfortunately officiated on a Friday Night based on what the covering officials saw on TV on a Saturday or Sunday rather than basing his ruling on what the Rules Book says.
Whether you love it or hate it, it IS the NFHS Rule.
FYI, a proposed change is on the Wishlist of the gentlemen from Oahu.