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Title: Punt Play - Rugby Style Kicker
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on November 04, 2023, 12:45:21 PM

How much protection does a rugby style kicker get when in a 4th down scrimmage kick formation and his regular "kicking style" is to roll out 5-8 yards to his right then kicking the ball on the run.  What if any rule and/or case play references specifically cover this?

Title: Re: Punt Play - Rugby Style Kicker
Post by: KWH on November 04, 2023, 02:05:09 PM

NFHS 9-4-5a
NFHS 9-4-5b
CASEBOOK 9.4.5 SITUATION A COMMENT
CASEBOOK 9.4.5 SITUATION B   This one provides the best answer to your question

Title: Re: Punt Play - Rugby Style Kicker
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on November 04, 2023, 03:40:02 PM

Quote from: KWH on November 04, 2023, 02:05:09 PM

CASEBOOK 9-4-5 SITUATION B   This one provides the best answer to your question

 :thumbup

Title: Re: Punt Play - Rugby Style Kicker
Post by: dch on November 06, 2023, 01:08:56 PM

When his foot hits the ball he is a kicker and should be afforded reasonable protection from that time on.  Just like roughing the passer.

Title: Re: Punt Play - Rugby Style Kicker
Post by: Ralph Damren on November 08, 2023, 10:36:25 AM

A rule of  :thumbup that we use is:
 IF B  IS TRYING TO TACKLE THE  SCRAMBLING POTENTIAL KICKER, B THINKS HE'S A RUNNER =  ^no

IF B IS TRYING TO BLOCK THE KICK & CONTACTS KICKER W/O TOUCHING THE BALL =  ^flag

Title: Re: Punt Play - Rugby Style Kicker
Post by: MAFBRef on November 08, 2023, 11:02:32 AM

I like that as a rule of thumb.