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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: ETXZebra on June 14, 2024, 05:59:21 AM
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The 2024 Rulebook is now available on RQ+.
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Where at, I'm not seeing it? Oddly enough it's not on the NCAA site yet either.
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Where at, I'm not seeing it? Oddly enough it's not on the NCAA site yet either.
In the Publications heading, the 'interactive' book is available. I'm guessing it can be printed, just like a standard PDF version. I will be trying, and let y'all know.
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I am printing it now.
I already see something good. Point of emphasis regarding abrupt defensive movements to cause a false start. How long have I been preaching this? There it is. In black and white. Abrupt movements. No can do! Not as big of a problem in NCAA contests (but a problem), but I know a high school association that uses NCAA rules that has a HUGE problem with this, and they gotta hammer down on this.
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It can be downloaded via pdf from RQ
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It can be downloaded via pdf from RQ
Yeah, I downloaded it to print it. 🙂 Old school, ya know.
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The Rule Book and Case Book are now available for download on the NCAA Publications site:
https://www.ncaapublications.com/c-82-football.aspx (https://www.ncaapublications.com/c-82-football.aspx)
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I have been pushing for years for us to make darn sure the snapper doesn't push the ball forward when he addresses the ball. A warning the first time it happens usually solves the problem, but we just all have to do it, and do it early.
So, they added OS 2-11, which now gives the snapper lattitude to move the ball as much as 18" forward. 1/2 yard. You gotta be crappin' me? Whose idea was that? This was not something that was broken. We just needed to emphasize "don't move the ball forward," and the problem is manageable. Now we have to judge was it 18" or 23", or whatever.
Let's make life more difficult, why don't we.
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I have been pushing for years for us to make darn sure the snapper doesn't push the ball forward when he addresses the ball. A warning the first time it happens usually solves the problem, but we just all have to do it, and do it early.
So, they added OS 2-11, which now gives the snapper lattitude to move the ball as much as 18" forward. 1/2 yard. You gotta be crappin' me? Whose idea was that? This was not something that was broken. We just needed to emphasize "don't move the ball forward," and the problem is manageable. Now we have to judge was it 18" or 23", or whatever.
Let's make life more difficult, why don't we.
I don't like it either. Plus, like just about every rule we have, we give them some extra on top of that. They should never have specified a length because you know coaches will see that and use the full 1/2 yard every time. Then when you warn, they'll say "but we're allowed 1/2 yard!". The whole article is fine except for the 1/2 yard.
Plus when centers do that, it pushes the DL back and even makes them offside. Do we use the original LOS and let the defense be 1/2 yard offside now?
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I don't like it either. Plus, like just about every rule we have, we give them some extra on top of that. They should never have specified a length because you know coaches will see that and use the full 1/2 yard every time. Then when you warn, they'll say "but we're allowed 1/2 yard!". The whole article is fine except for the 1/2 yard.
Plus when centers do that, it pushes the DL back and even makes them offside. Do we use the original LOS and let the defense be 1/2 yard offside now?
We can only hope that coaches don’t ever see this, since it is in the Standards, not the rules. They don’t look at the rules much, much less the Standards. I plan to keep insisting on not pushing the ball forward, until a coach shows me this Standard.
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I don't like it either. Plus, like just about every rule we have, we give them some extra on top of that. They should never have specified a length because you know coaches will see that and use the full 1/2 yard every time. Then when you warn, they'll say "but we're allowed 1/2 yard!". The whole article is fine except for the 1/2 yard.
Plus when centers do that, it pushes the DL back and even makes them offside. Do we use the original LOS and let the defense be 1/2 yard offside now?
The neutral zone is established when the ball is made ready for play (2-17-1), so any snapper moving the ball up doesn't change where the neutral zone is located, nor does it make the defense offside if, as a result, there's now some overlap because the snapper is holding the ball ahead of the neutral zone. By rule, that is encroachment by the snapper.
This is a fairly common issue with many snappers in the European game. Not by half a yard, but certainly enough that it's noticeable. When I used to work line of scrimmage, I'd often be telling a coach that the reason the D-line looked offside was down to his snapper moving the ball up, not the defense, then pointing out that the only foul by rule was encroachment by his snapper, and if he wanted me to throw that on his team every time his snapper picked up the ball, sure, no problem coach, we can do that. That normally resulted in said coach going quiet and quickly finding something else to worry about.
I'd also always give the defense the benefit of the doubt any time a snapper did this.