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Title: Not that difficult, but interesting
Post by: ElvisLives on November 18, 2024, 01:32:48 PM
A33 breaks for a possible TD along the left sideline. As A33 approaches the goal line with an opponent closing in on him from the right side, A33 lunges forward and leaps toward the goal line. Now fully airborne, and  very near the pylon, with the ball in his right hand, he extends his right arm forward and the ball passes above the goal line to the right of the pylon. A33 continues to 'fly' through the air, passing with his body directly over and beyond the pylon. His left foot is the first part of his body that touches the ground, as it lands out of bounds. A split second later, A33 touches the ball (still in his right hand) down on the ground in the end zone, 2 inches inside the sideline. A33 continues to fall to the ground, rolling with full control of the ball, out of bounds. At no time during this action was the pylon touched by any player.

Whatcha got? And WHY?
Title: Re: Not that difficult, but interesting
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on November 18, 2024, 01:45:20 PM
A33 breaks for a possible TD along the left sideline. As A33 approaches the goal line with an opponent closing in on him from the right side, A33 lunges forward and leaps toward the goal line. Now fully airborne, and  very near the pylon, with the ball in his right hand, he extends his right arm forward and the ball passes above the goal line to the right of the pylon. A33 continues to 'fly' through the air, passing with his body directly over and beyond the pylon. His left foot is the first part of his body that touches the ground, as it lands out of bounds. A split second later, A33 touches the ball (still in his right hand) down on the ground in the end zone, 2 inches inside the sideline. A33 continues to fall to the ground, rolling with full control of the ball, out of bounds. At no time during this action was the pylon touched by any player.

Whatcha got? And WHY?


This is a TD as the ball broke the plane of the GL, inside the pylon, prior to any part of A touching the pylon which is OB and in the EZ, or the ground OB.  Once the ball breaks the plane of the EZ inbounds while in possession of the ball carrier the play is over and we have a TD.
Title: Re: Not that difficult, but interesting
Post by: ElvisLives on November 18, 2024, 02:20:54 PM


Saw this action in a 'higher' level game over the weekend, and thought that it looked odd, but, just because a BC is airborne, in full legal possession of the ball, he does not lose any privilege associated with the goal line that a BC on his feet would have. The ball broke the plane of the goal line between the sidelines, and the ball was in full legal possession of an attacking player. That's a TD.

Had the ball passed outside the pylon, now, that's another story. Same setup, but the ball in the BC's left hand, passes fully outside the pylon. The BC does NOT get goal line extended, because the first part of his body that touches the ground is out of bounds (and nothing touched the pylon). The ball would be dead where it crossed the sideline.

 
Title: Re: Not that difficult, but interesting
Post by: Kalle on November 19, 2024, 02:08:42 AM
A.R. 8-2-1-V is pretty much this play situation.
Title: Re: Not that difficult, but interesting
Post by: ElvisLives on November 19, 2024, 10:52:34 AM
A.R. 8-2-1-V is pretty much this play situation.

Yes. 8-2-1-V actually makes 8-2-1-II redundant, but, better too much than not enough. 🙂
But do you know how far 3 yards is? That’s 9 feet. That’s some truly “big air” on those leaps.😄