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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: theride on August 24, 2025, 10:57:02 PM
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What are your thoughts on the half the distance penalty yardage being eliminated. So for example, if B tackles A by the facemask on the 19 yard line, and the end of the run is the enforcement spot, the ball would be spotted at the 4 yard line since 15 yards is available for enforcement. If the full penalty yardage isn't available, the ball would be place at the 1 yard line. This used to be how it was done up until 1959 and then changed at that time to the current rule.
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Maybe the college rule that DPI is an exception to half-the-distance is a remainder of this old rule.
I agree that eliminating half the distance would discourage penalties in situations where the full yardage can be enforced. Putting the ball at the 1 (or at the 2-yard line, for DPI in NCAA rules) is fair, because it gives the offense an opportunity to be in scoring range, especially when a foul was committed to take away a scoring opportunity.
Another potential solution to fouls that take away a scoring opportunity in half-the-distance territory is to make all personal fouls, unsportsmanlike conduct by B, and DPI carry an automatic 1st down. This would also deter unsportsmanlike conduct and unnecessarily rough play by B in situations where A has to face long yardage, where the penalty might otherwise not affect anything for B (a sack makes it 3rd and 20, but B57 flexes in the face of the downed QB).
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While Theride is correct, rule 10-5 in 1959 a new rule read :"no penalty measurement can take the ball more than half the distance from the enforcement spot to the offending team's goal line"; this has never been discussed in any informal forum at our NFHS meetings. With the removal of AFD on DPI, a concern has been voiced and may lead to further debate.
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Yes for example DPI in a goal to go situation on 4th and you're beat, you're an idiot to not interfere.
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Maximum Chaos Suggestion -- All penalties are enforced in full. If the resulting placement of the ball is therefore in an endzone, a touchdown or safety (depending on who's end zone is involved) is awarded.
DPI when the ball is snapped on the 10? 15 yards puts the ball in the endzone -- Touchdown.
False Start when you're pinned at your own 2? Safety.
Who's with me? Maximum Chaos!
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Not a fan of this change in any way. It's another solution in search of a problem. Leave it.
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Maximum Chaos Suggestion -- All penalties are enforced in full. If the resulting placement of the ball is therefore in an endzone, a touchdown or safety (depending on who's end zone is involved) is awarded.
DPI when the ball is snapped on the 10? 15 yards puts the ball in the endzone -- Touchdown.
False Start when you're pinned at your own 2? Safety.
Who's with me? Maximum Chaos!
Sounds just like John Belushi in Animal House.....was it over when the Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor?....
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Not a fan of this change in any way. It's another solution in search of a problem. Leave it.
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