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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: BigWill on October 02, 2025, 08:42:54 AM

Title: Safety fouls by A
Post by: BigWill on October 02, 2025, 08:42:54 AM

Quarterback gets tacked in his own endzone he grabs Bs facemask as he is going down flag on A how is this penalty accessed? Does rule 8-3-2 apply to this?

Title: Re: Safety fouls by A
Post by: bossman72 on October 02, 2025, 08:45:11 AM

If you rule this a live ball foul, both the enforcement of the foul and the result of the play are a safety.  So it's a safety any way you slice it.
If you rule a dead ball foul, it's a safety, then the FMM is enforced on the kickoff half the distance to the 10.

Title: Re: Safety fouls by A
Post by: bama_stripes on October 02, 2025, 08:54:48 AM

Bossman is correct.  8-2-2 specifies that A has an enforcement option.  In this case, B is the scoring team.

Title: Re: Safety fouls by A
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on October 02, 2025, 03:34:44 PM

Quote from: bama_stripes on October 02, 2025, 08:54:48 AM

Bossman is correct.  8-2-2 specifies that A has an enforcement option.  In this case, B is the scoring team.

Additionally, doesn't the wording of 8-2-2 specifically apply to a touchdown only?

Title: Re: Safety fouls by A
Post by: bama_stripes on October 03, 2025, 07:42:37 AM

Quote from: NVFOA_Ump on October 02, 2025, 03:34:44 PM

Additionally, doesn't the wording of 8-2-2 specifically apply to a touchdown only?

Yep — “...during a down in which a touchdown is scored...”

Title: Re: Safety fouls by A
Post by: Ralph Damren on October 09, 2025, 12:12:01 PM

We once discussed tacking such a live ball to the succeeding spot on a play resulting in a safety. The strong general feeling was the safety - 2 points & the ball via a free kick - was penalty enough.