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Title: Play clock status on injury?
Post by: BigWill on October 16, 2025, 01:19:45 PM
When we have an injury time out for B play clock goes to 40 for A its 25 what do we set the play clock if both A and B both go down ?
Title: Re: Play clock status on injury?
Post by: GA Umpire on October 16, 2025, 02:34:34 PM
Quote from: BigWill on October 16, 2025, 01:19:45 PM
When we have an injury time out for B play clock goes to 40 for A its 25 what do we set the play clock if both A and B both go down ?

25
Title: Re: Play clock status on injury?
Post by: bossman72 on October 16, 2025, 03:05:22 PM
NCAA does 40.  I'm not sure what the interp is for NFHS.  40 always trumps 25 in NCAA, FWIW.
Title: Re: Play clock status on injury?
Post by: bama_stripes on October 17, 2025, 06:54:02 AM
The default is 25 following an official’s TO, unless the problem (penalty, injury, helmet off) is caused by B alone.
Title: Re: Play clock status on injury?
Post by: bossman72 on October 17, 2025, 08:36:45 AM
Anyone have a case play or interp?
Title: Re: Play clock status on injury?
Post by: ncwingman on October 17, 2025, 08:51:51 AM
Quote from: bossman72 on October 17, 2025, 08:36:45 AM
Anyone have a case play or interp?

Case play 3.6.1 Situation F
Title: Re: Play clock status on injury?
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on October 17, 2025, 09:49:53 AM
Quote from: ncwingman on October 17, 2025, 08:51:51 AM
Case play 3.6.1 Situation F


For clarity 3.6.1 Situation F was added in the 2025 Case Book to clarify the confusion regarding this issue.
Title: Re: Play clock status on injury?
Post by: Ralph Damren on October 17, 2025, 02:03:26 PM
tHE RATIONALE OF THS RULE:

less than 0:40 left ,but more than 0:25 left in period/half/game whatever.. B's coach -who is also a math teacher - could force A to run a play w/25 play clock by B player faking an injury. 40 sec. PC would allow A to run out the clock.

NOTE: I pushed this to be treated the same as 3-4-7 and only applicable to the last 2 of a half. I lost :(.

RESULT: 11:59 remaining in 1st peroiod > B player injured > 40 PC.
Title: Re: Play clock status on injury?
Post by: zebrastripes on October 17, 2025, 06:52:54 PM
Quote from: Ralph Damren on October 17, 2025, 02:03:26 PM
tHE RATIONALE OF THS RULE:

less than 0:40 left ,but more than 0:25 left in period/half/game whatever.. B's coach -who is also a math teacher - could force A to run a play w/25 play clock by B player faking an injury. 40 sec. PC would allow A to run out the clock.

NOTE: I pushed this to be treated the same as 3-4-7 and only applicable to the last 2 of a half. I lost :(.

RESULT: 11:59 remaining in 1st peroiod > B player injured > 40 PC.
What’s the rationale for :25 superseding :40 in a situation where both teams have an injured player? As noted in NCAA it’s the opposite – :40 supersedes :25. Why different in FED?
Title: Re: Play clock status on injury?
Post by: Ralph Damren on October 19, 2025, 11:36:50 AM
Quote from: zebrastripes on October 17, 2025, 06:52:54 PM
What’s the rationale for :25 superseding :40 in a situation where both teams have an injured player? As noted in NCAA it’s the opposite – :40 supersedes :25. Why different in FED?

We felt :25 PC on injured A player should suporcede :40 PC on B's injury, too.

WE also felt that what the NCAA does, doesn't mean we should do it, too.