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Title: NFL rule question
Post by: KFox1979 on October 10, 2010, 05:57:35 PM
I am watching the Ten v. Dallas game and had two questions about the ending of the third quarter.

The final play was a sweep to the left for 8yds that was run OOB.  The clock stopped with 6 seconds left in the 3rd quarter.  There was a penalty on the play for illegal use of hands (hands to the face) on the defense.  The penalty was accepted (R said 5yds from end of the run) and the result was a first down.  He wound the clock on the ready and the quarter ended.

1.  They run the clock after the penalty even if the result of the play was a run OOB?
2.  They don't extend a period after an accepted penalty?

I get to hear about all the differences between Friday and Sunday, but these are two I hadn't been aware of.
Title: Re: NFL rule question
Post by: Welpe on October 10, 2010, 06:30:12 PM
The NFL is the same as the NCAA in that the clock will only stop for a runner OOB in the last two min of the half.

Also, like the NCAA, the period is extended only if time expires during the down.
Title: Re: NFL rule question
Post by: TXMike on October 10, 2010, 06:44:19 PM
What about the OPI call on Austin?  The pass was completed behind the LOS.  I guess their rule is different on that also?
Title: Re: NFL rule question
Post by: KFox1979 on October 10, 2010, 06:56:33 PM
The NFL is the same as the NCAA in that the clock will only stop for a runner OOB in the last two min of the half.

Also, like the NCAA, the period is extended only if time expires during the down.

So your games down in Texas must move quickly.
Title: Re: NFL rule question
Post by: JasonTX on October 10, 2010, 07:13:11 PM
So your games down in Texas must move quickly.

Not our high school games.  We have exceptions to the NCAA timing rules.  If a runner goes out of bounds the ball will next start on the snap.
Title: Re: NFL rule question
Post by: LarryW60 on October 11, 2010, 12:11:01 AM
What about the OPI call on Austin?  The pass was completed behind the LOS.  I guess their rule is different on that also?
As I understand it, in the NFL you can't be blocking downfield prior to ANY forward pass.  In the NFHS it's "a forward pass that crosses the neutral zone".
Title: Re: NFL rule question
Post by: NTXRef on October 11, 2010, 09:04:28 AM
What about the OPI call on Austin?  The pass was completed behind the LOS.  I guess their rule is different on that also?

We had a long discussion about this a couple of weeks ago.   NFL rule definitely is differently - you cannot block downfield before any pass regardless of where ball is caught.   Surprise that we dont see this called a lot more often - that's a couple of times on Cowboys already this season.

So your games down in Texas must move quickly.

We are actually using the NCAA timing rules as they were in 2005 (pre-40 sec clock).   They include this in the UIL exceptions with the whole timing section of the 2005 rule book attached.   Makes it nice as nothing has changed for a while.   Also, makes it a little more difficult of our brethren that also does college as they are definitely different (I suppose getting close to NF to NCAA transition).  Not a fan of the current rules, as it seems to have turned into a race to see how fast the ball can get spotted and wound after OOB or 1st down.
Title: Re: NFL rule question
Post by: Dommer1 on October 19, 2010, 06:11:31 PM
The NFL is the same as the NCAA in that the clock will only stop for a runner OOB in the last two min of the half.

Also, like the NCAA, the period is extended only if time expires during the down.

I'm pretty sure you know this, but the clock does stop for a runner OOB, but it restarts when the ball is placed/ready.
Title: Re: NFL rule question
Post by: Welpe on October 19, 2010, 09:25:50 PM
I'm pretty sure you know this, but the clock does stop for a runner OOB, but it restarts when the ball is placed/ready.

Oops, thanks for the correction.