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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: neil99 on November 02, 2010, 02:10:33 PM

Title: I have one for you
Post by: neil99 on November 02, 2010, 02:10:33 PM
I had this in a JR High game the other week.......

3rd and 25 from their own 20. A decides to be sneaky and have the QB punt on 3rd down. The kick is blocked by R picked up by K behind the LOS and advanced 10 yards to the 30 yard line. What do you have?

Title: Re: I have one for you
Post by: george7244 on November 02, 2010, 02:21:20 PM
A fourth and 15 from the 30
Title: Re: I have one for you
Post by: Curious on November 02, 2010, 02:33:26 PM
I had this in a JR High game the other week.......

3rd and 25 from their own 20. A decides to be sneaky and have the QB punt on 3rd down. The kick is blocked by R picked up by K behind the LOS and advanced 10 yards to the 30 yard line. What do you have?



Geo7244 has it right.  What did YOU have?
Title: Re: I have one for you
Post by: LarryW60 on November 03, 2010, 08:02:00 AM
You don't specify where the block occurred, so we're assuming the block happened behind the LOS.  If so then the touching by R is ignored and K must STILL make the line to gain in order to get a first down.  4th and 15 for A on A's 30.
Title: Re: I have one for you
Post by: VALJ on November 09, 2010, 05:55:17 PM
If the block happens beyond the LOS, first and 10 for K where he was tackled.  And the clock starts on the snap, since it's an awarded first down after a legal kick.
Title: Re: I have one for you
Post by: east louis on November 10, 2010, 09:16:59 AM
4th down 15 at 30--dont make it brain surgery
Title: Re: I have one for you
Post by: footballref on December 23, 2010, 06:29:22 PM
4th and 15 from the 30.

I will put a new twist on it. What if R had muffed it and it rolled from the spot of the muff (beyond the LOS) back behind the LOS and K picks the ball up and kicks again. Then K falls on the ball 25 yards downfield from the LOS.
Title: Re: I have one for you
Post by: LarryW60 on December 23, 2010, 06:36:52 PM
(Sigh) that scenario has already been discussed.  The second kick by K "uses up" the fact that R had previously muffed the ball and it will be R's ball 1st and 10 at K's 45.  The K player downed the kick when he fell on it.