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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: TXMike on November 15, 2010, 01:52:02 AM
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We all know you can have DPI that is also a PF but I don't think we often see it.
I wonder about calling a horse collar foul when the foulee is not the ball carrier. By rule I don't think you can do that. Wonder about "by intent of rule".
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The intent of the HC foul is to protect the legs of a player - I don't see a leg issue here.
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If this same action had ocurred with an airborne ball carrier would you flag?
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With the rule as it is written, and as it is a safety foul, I'd have to flag it if it's against an airborne ball carrier.
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Then don't use the "it ain't the legs" defense, counselor. >:D
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It ain't against the ball carrier, sir! :)
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The intent of the HC foul is to protect the legs of a player - I don't see a leg issue here.
There is of course absolutely nothing dangerous about pulling an airborne opponent so that he lands on his head.
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There is of course absolutely nothing dangerous about pulling an airborne opponent so that he lands on his head.
I didn't say that there isn't anything dangerous, but the rules makers haven't so far addressed any such tackle where the (airborne) player lands on his head.
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I'd have no qualms with an official that tacked on 15 to this. Not in the least. That is clearly roughness that is un-necessary.
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I'm not sure if I'd personally flag this particular situation as a PF (I'm notoriously lenient on the field) but would support it, with the general unnecessary roughness clause.
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I'd have no qualms with an official that tacked on 15 to this. Not in the least. That is clearly roughness that is un-necessary.
The problem is in NCAA rules, you can't. This isn't a dead-ball foul, so you either apply the DPI or the PF as you can only have one accepted live ball foul.
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Looking at the replay, I dont think this is a PF.
The defender was beat. The receiver slowed down and jumped for the ball. Now the defender is beat (again!); he's airborn and going past the receiver. I think he just went for a desperate pull to prevent the catch. Unfortunately, given their respective altitudes and the angles of their bodies, the receiver's collar is what he got.
Intentional DPI. But no malicious intent, imo.
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Looks like the FED rules have a "better idea" on this type of play - allowing officials to call an additional penalty ("intentional interference")!
Rule 7-5-10(Penalty) certainly appears appropriate here!