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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: Aussie-Zebra on December 19, 2010, 07:41:02 AM

Title: Player abuse towards an official
Post by: Aussie-Zebra on December 19, 2010, 07:41:02 AM
We had an incident yesterday in which a Captain screamed and swore at the referee and called him a f'n liar several times.

We penalised USC, is there a ruling that says this player has disqualified himself from further participation  ?

I can only find these .............

DISQUALIFICATION
Prohibited signal devices
Use of tobacco
Flagrant fouls
Two unsportsmanlike fouls
Illegal cleats
Contacting an official
Fighting
Title: Re: Player abuse towards an official
Post by: Kalle on December 19, 2010, 07:47:57 AM
See rule 9-2-1-penalty. Sounds like an immediate DQ to me.
Title: Re: Player abuse towards an official
Post by: TXMike on December 19, 2010, 07:51:50 AM
Adios for today Mr Captain
Title: Re: Player abuse towards an official
Post by: Atlanta Blue on December 19, 2010, 08:11:21 AM
We had an incident yesterday in which a Captain screamed and swore at the referee and called him a f'n liar several times.

SEVERAL times?  Once was enough for an ejection, but even if you were lenient and allowed him to stay after the first one, his leash would have been so short that his neck would have been snapped when he uttered the second one.
Title: Re: Player abuse towards an official
Post by: NCAA-SJ on December 19, 2010, 08:38:54 AM
Completely agree.....the only exception is if he only said it once AND I was the only one to hear it.  This would give the opportunity to correct the situation immediately and give him a chance to recognize and correct the situation before it became a 'public' event...but that's just me and that's assuming he has done NOTHING prior to this.

Having said that, you can't help a knucklehead.  You cannot abuse an official, verbally or physically...it's an automatic DQ.  Also, keep in mind, that saying something about the 'call on the field' is different from saying something about the actual official (i.e. that's a fing awful call vs. you're a fing awful official/person/etc) Hopefully, we stayed completely calm and professional when administrating the penalty and when explaining to the coach was occurred....sometimes we can be guilty of showing our emotions as well which should be avoided.
Title: Re: Player abuse towards an official
Post by: Rulesman on December 19, 2010, 09:48:50 AM
Derogatory comments directed at an official preceeded by the word "you" and containing the "f" word = bye-bye.
Title: Re: Player abuse towards an official
Post by: Aussie-Zebra on December 19, 2010, 10:25:06 AM
Ah 9-2-1 - I did a search through the PDF version but couldn't find it.

We only counted it as 1 USC as he was repeating himself - we decided after the game that he should have been disqualified at the time and that in future any player/coach/team member will be ejected immediately.- with 1:08 remaining in the game it was a moot point though.

BTW the offender was also the league President  :!#
Title: Re: Player abuse towards an official
Post by: Rulesman on December 19, 2010, 01:36:02 PM
Any player can be ejected on the first USC. Waiting for the second is not a requirement.
Title: Re: Player abuse towards an official
Post by: Welpe on December 19, 2010, 10:46:13 PM
This is definitely a flagrant USC foul in my book.  It's so much easier in hindsight, isn't it?
Title: Re: Player abuse towards an official
Post by: JasonTX on December 19, 2010, 11:38:33 PM
....sometimes we can be guilty of showing our emotions as well which should be avoided.

Excellent advice.  Another thing to avoid is throwing your flag 90 feet in the air in these situations.  That is another way that shows your emotion.  Just toss it up without any emotion and then calmly report it.
Title: Re: Player abuse towards an official
Post by: 110 on December 20, 2010, 05:53:41 AM
Why wasn't he sent to the showers on the first occasion?
Title: Re: Player abuse towards an official
Post by: Aussie-Zebra on December 20, 2010, 06:23:08 AM
Frankly 'livin' we were all like stunned mullets for a bit. Only 1:08 remaining in the game I'm surprised we got a  ^flag in.

Thanks for the references guys - I was searching "disqualification" and not "disqualified"

I was looking for a flagrant USC reference and 9-2-1 fits the bill.