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Title: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: TXMike on December 26, 2010, 09:52:47 PM
While I would like to see this exception eliminated, it is still in effect and applies not only to announcing numbers of fouling players but to numbers of those ejected also

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Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: DallasLJ on December 26, 2010, 09:59:10 PM
Opps! :o
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: James on December 27, 2010, 03:04:55 AM
Weel, no real harm. The lack of announcement is to keep the offended team from the possibility of retaliating, right? And after he is ejected he isn't around to be 'hunted'.
But you are right, it would be better to be consistant.
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: TXMike on December 27, 2010, 05:23:46 AM
No,the lack of announcement is to keep from embarassing little Johnny and his mommy and daddy.
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: 110 on December 27, 2010, 12:21:13 PM
I don't get this. The pee wees want the numbers announced. The bantams want the numbers announced. The 10-man varsity want numbers announced. The 12-man varsity want the numbers announced. The senior men and senior women want the numbers announced

Yet our university, which is sometimes televised, does not want the numbers announced.

Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: Mckorkle on December 27, 2010, 12:21:29 PM
What about the "Unsportsmanlike" at the 10!  Next year he doesn't set the record.  I believe it will be 1 & 10 at the 25!
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: Zebra27 on December 27, 2010, 12:37:46 PM
Wow, some of you guys really like to nitpick your fellow officials...
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: TXMike on December 27, 2010, 01:00:13 PM
What about the "Unsportsmanlike" at the 10!  Next year he doesn't set the record.  I believe it will be 1 & 10 at the 25!

I suspect we may get some more guidance from the NCAA prior to next season but I am not sure the action at the 10 is what they want flagged as UnsConduct.  That being said, I would expect most coaches would be making a serious effort before next season starts to get their guys to do NOTHING that could in any way be seen as an uns conduct act since it will be so expensive.
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: TxJim on December 27, 2010, 01:48:35 PM
Wow, some of you guys really like to nitpick your fellow officials...

I've missed the nitpicking you're complaining about. Since you said you were a newbie, do you understand the issue of this topic and its history in Texas?
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: allen on December 27, 2010, 01:53:40 PM
Chris is a hell of a white hat though.  Even if the hat itself is ugly.
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: TXMike on December 27, 2010, 02:05:46 PM
His announcements were much clearer than most that is for sure.  As articulate as he is i would guess he started as a back judge.
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: TxJim on December 27, 2010, 02:18:00 PM
His announcements were much clearer than most that is for sure.  As articulate as he is i would guess he started as a back judge.

First you nitpick, then you insult the guy by attaching a "back judge" label to him.    nAnA
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: Grant - AR on December 27, 2010, 02:51:37 PM
On a somewhat similar topic, is it common for the R to have a microphone in regular season games in Texas? 
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: TxJim on December 27, 2010, 03:02:01 PM
On a somewhat similar topic, is it common for the R to have a microphone in regular season games in Texas?  

In the larger districts, yes.  Although I know of at least one large district where the AD does not like them so they don't have them.
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: Etref on December 27, 2010, 03:32:45 PM
On a somewhat similar topic, is it common for the R to have a microphone in regular season games in Texas? 

Some schools have them and some do not. It does not matter about classification. Some 5A stadiums will not have them and some 2A stadiums will. Then you are also pot luck on whether it works or not.
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: TXMike on December 27, 2010, 03:42:43 PM
On a somewhat similar topic, is it common for the R to have a microphone in regular season games in Texas? 

Too common unfortunately.   ;)
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: fencewire on December 27, 2010, 03:48:27 PM
Some 1A and I read at least 6 man venues will mic you up nowadays...
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: Grant - AR on December 27, 2010, 03:51:58 PM
In the larger districts, yes.  Although I know of at least one large district where the AD does not like them so they don't have them.

Some schools have them and some do not. It does not matter about classification. Some 5A stadiums will not have them and some 2A stadiums will. Then you are also pot luck on whether it works or not.

Too common unfortunately.   ;)

Some 1A and I read at least 6 man venues will mic you up nowadays...

I ask because it is still fairly uncommon in Arkansas.  Some schools have them but the majority do not.  I've seen a few times where Rs struggle a little with their announcements, but I think it's because they don't have much practice using them.
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: Arbitrator on December 27, 2010, 03:59:47 PM
 ^flag

Most of the 5A and 4A venues in the Greater Houston area have them, with one notable exception being Houston ISD.    z^
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: JasonTX on December 27, 2010, 05:33:20 PM
I ask because it is still fairly uncommon in Arkansas.  Some schools have them but the majority do not.  I've seen a few times where Rs struggle a little with their announcements, but I think it's because they don't have much practice using them.

This is why I always reccomend that all R's should verbally announce even when they are not wearing a mic so that they will be prepared for when they are given one.
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: James on December 28, 2010, 01:06:39 AM
What about the "Unsportsmanlike" at the 10!  Next year he doesn't set the record.  I believe it will be 1 & 10 at the 25!
Na - he is just giving thanks to the Lord... Shouldn't be flagged >:D

Just kidding everyone. Hope the holidays were warm and full of cheer, and the new year starts off well.
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: TxGrayhat on January 28, 2011, 06:31:54 PM
Just Gotta remember to turn it off. before you start talking smack.....
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: GAHSUMPIRE on January 30, 2011, 02:36:36 PM
I ask because it is still fairly uncommon in Arkansas.  Some schools have them but the majority do not.  I've seen a few times where Rs struggle a little with their announcements, but I think it's because they don't have much practice using them.

I used to work with a white hat who would turn the mic on and off when making announcements even when he wasn't wearing one. He would put his beanbag where the on/off switch would normally be and turn that on and off.
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: 110 on January 30, 2011, 05:11:44 PM
I used to work with a white hat who would turn the mic on and off when making announcements even when he wasn't wearing one. He would put his beanbag where the on/off switch would normally be and turn that on and off.

I have a feeling any evaluators would be most displeased if I start turning my beanbag on and off.
I mean, this IS a family sport.
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: Rulesman on January 30, 2011, 08:41:39 PM
I have a feeling any evaluators would be most displeased if I start turning my beanbag on and off.
...the looney doctors might question that as well.  ;D
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: Joe Stack on January 30, 2011, 09:34:12 PM
As stated, most all 4A/5A venues have mics. 3A is hit and miss. With only one exception, I've never had a mic in a 2A or lower, including Private school game.
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: HAshleyTX on January 31, 2011, 10:51:20 AM
I've had several small schools with a mic.  In LaPryor, TX (can't recall if they're 1A or 2A) they made a big deal of it.  Whenever I got ready to talk, the announcer would come over the speaker an say "and here's your referee Mr. Ashley....with the call."  The band would stop, the crowd would quiet just to hear what I had to say.  Of course they would rain a chorus of "boos" if it were against the home team but it was always a chilling experience.
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: Etref on January 31, 2011, 01:15:57 PM
We have a couple of private schools with mics and they even use them on subvarsity games. Several 2A schools up here have mics. I do not know of any 1A which do.
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: rickref on January 31, 2011, 01:22:40 PM
I like mics. We have a lot of guys who hate em.
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: TxSkyBolt on January 31, 2011, 05:25:30 PM
I've had several small schools with a mic.  In LaPryor, TX (can't recall if they're 1A or 2A) they made a big deal of it.  Whenever I got ready to talk, the announcer would come over the speaker an say "and here's your referee Mr. Ashley....with the call."  The band would stop, the crowd would quiet just to hear what I had to say.  Of course they would rain a chorus of "boos" if it were against the home team but it was always a chilling experience.


Herb,

Did you use your best radio voice?  Cause you definitely have the face for radio LOL
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: GWK on January 31, 2011, 07:48:25 PM
... I do not know of any 1A which do.


1A sized West Sabine in East Texas has had a referee mic for years.  Until Beaumont ISD built their new stadium out on I-10 west of Beaumont, they were the only one in this corner of Texas that had a ref mic. 
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: TxGrayhat on February 03, 2011, 09:48:32 AM
I don't mind the mic. I announce the penaltys outloud even on the nights (which is most of them) that I'm not Mic'ed. Since I work in the Fast Food Buisness I am worried That I might say "Holding on the Offense... Thats a 10 yard penalty.. Would You Like to Whatasize That ? eAt&
Title: Re: UIL Exceptions re Announcing Numbers
Post by: Etref on February 03, 2011, 11:23:18 AM
I don't mind the mic. I announce the penaltys outloud even on the nights (which is most of them) that I'm not Mic'ed. Since I work in the Fast Food Buisness I am worried That I might say "Holding on the Offense... Thats a 10 yard penalty.. Would You Like to Whatasize That ? eAt&


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, wonder what part of the fast food industry he is with?    yEs: