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Title: extra period penalty question
Post by: MJT on February 15, 2011, 11:45:23 PM
Just cuz we haven't had any rules questions in a while I thought I'd throw an extra period question out there.
3rd and goal at the 15 in the 1st extra period as A40 is at the 5 yard line approaching the EZ for a TD and he starts pointing to the sky and high steps from the 5 to the goal line .  ^flag What's the procedure now?
Title: Re: extra period penalty question
Post by: El Macman on February 16, 2011, 06:16:28 AM
Just cuz we haven't had any rules questions in a while I thought I'd throw an extra period question out there.
In the 1st extra period as A40 is at the 5 yard line approaching the EZ for a TD and he starts pointing to the sky and high steps from the 5 to the goal line .  ^flag What's the procedure now?

Insufficient information, but this is a live ball foul (new for 2011), the TD is canceled, and the 15-yard penalty is enforced at the spot of the foul, repeat the down. So, we don't know down and distance, but the succeeding spot will be the B-20, and A40 has an Unsportsmanlike Conduct charged to him; if that was his second of the game, he's DQ'd. Other than there is no game clock, no difference from regulation play.

Title: Re: extra period penalty question
Post by: MJT on February 16, 2011, 07:38:55 AM
Why do we not have enough information?
Title: Re: extra period penalty question
Post by: Kalle on February 16, 2011, 07:44:31 AM
Why do we not have enough information?

Because the penalty does not specify an automatic first down (or I'm blatantly going to assume it won't - the rule book isn't out yet), we need to know the original down and distance to rule if it is going to be 1st and 10 from the B-20 or not.
Title: Re: extra period penalty question
Post by: MJT on February 16, 2011, 08:48:40 AM
Ok, I have changed the original question to include the down and distance.
Title: Re: extra period penalty question
Post by: Getting Fat on February 16, 2011, 09:22:27 AM
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I would imagine that this would be a repeat the down penalty.
Title: Re: extra period penalty question
Post by: El Macman on February 16, 2011, 09:38:44 AM
Ok, I have changed the original question to include the down and distance.

OK, 3rd /G, B-20.
Title: Re: extra period penalty question
Post by: Diablo on February 16, 2011, 09:48:29 AM
Because the penalty does not specify an automatic first down (or I'm blatantly going to assume it won't - the rule book isn't out yet), we need to know the original down and distance to rule if it is going to be 1st and 10 from the B-20 or not.

I doubt there would be a change to award an automatic first down after a Team A foul.   ;D

Treating an USC foul during a Try or in EPs as a live-ball foul has been the norm for several years.  I don't think they will be a change in penalty administration for those fouls.
Title: Re: extra period penalty question
Post by: Kalle on February 16, 2011, 10:32:14 AM
Treating an USC foul during a Try or in EPs as a live-ball foul has been the norm for several years. 

You mean after a change of team possession, right?
Title: Re: extra period penalty question
Post by: Diablo on February 16, 2011, 11:16:45 AM
You mean after a change of team possession, right?


I do now. 
Thanks for the correction.