RefStripes.com
Football Officiating => Texas Topics => Topic started by: TXMike on March 11, 2011, 07:32:41 AM
-
http://www.house.state.tx.us/members/member-page/?district=29
He filed a bill yesterday that is VERY interesting ...It is attached
[attachment deleted by admin]
-
I just looked it up.
It is HB 3028
He needs to be supported and thanked.
[attachment deleted by admin]
-
Facinating.
-
So if I'm reading this right...would this bill effectively abolish Section 1204 entirely?
-
Sorry to barge in on your discussion, but I'm a little confused by this paragraph:
SECTIONA2.AA This Act takes effect immediately if it receives
a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each house, as
provided by Section 39, Article III, Texas Constitution. If this
Act does not receive the vote necessary for immediate effect, this
Act takes effect September 1, 2011.
I'm no politician, but how can an act take effect if it does not receive the appropriate number of votes? Or, am I just reading this wrong?
-
That's how we roll down here. We don't need to pass it to implement it.
Seriously, the supermajority means it goes into effect rat now!!! Simple majority means it goes into effect in Sept
-
That's how we roll down here. We don't need to pass it to implement it.
Seriously, the supermajority means it goes into effect rat now!!! Simple majority means it goes into effect in Sept
I should know this but.... does the Senate need to pass a similar bill which will then be sent to the Governor for his signature?
I sent Rep. Weber a note of support for this bill and also encouraged my Rep and Senator to support it as well.
-
(b)AAThe University Interscholastic League may not register,
charge fees to, or require membership in or attempt to register,
charge fees to, or require membership in any sponsoring
organization of sports officials as a precondition for a sports
official to contract with a school district or open-enrollment
charter school.
Anyone else here have the concern that I do about this in regards to (b). Plain language interpretation would mean they cannot require membership in any organization, that would include TASO. So everyone could just contract on their own with no regulation at all. I see the problem of: "Coach my buddies and I would like to buy you lunch 3 days a week and we'll make sure you are well taken care of on Friday nights". Isn't this the problem that led to the formation of SOA back in the 30's? Sometimes you do need some level of regulation.
-
That's how we roll down here. We don't need to pass it to implement it.
Seriously, the supermajority means it goes into effect rat now!!! Simple majority means it goes into effect in Sept
Good to see that you guys have some support in the legislature. Gotta say as a neutral, Ive always leaned toward the TASO view. Some of my British colleagues have visited with y'all and worked games in Texas and had good things to say about the TASO guys and Texas football. We are independent over here in the UK too and have had our equivalent of the UIL at that time try to force us to do things in the past. They failed.
This voting system in your State legislature is an interesting concept.
So what it means is that it still needs a simple majority vote to go into law in Sept, but a super majority passes it on the day of the vote.
How do they manage the process of deciding the date (Sept in this case)? How do they ensure there is time for the bill to be debated and voted on before that date if the house has a lot of bills in the pipeline? Is it 6 months on from the date of the bill being submitted or is it variable depending on how busy the House is?
-
Good to see that you guys have some support in the legislature. Gotta say as a neutral, Ive always leaned toward the TASO view. Some of my British colleagues have visited with y'all and worked games in Texas and had good things to say about the TASO guys and Texas football. We are independent over here in the UK too and have had our equivalent of the UIL at that time try to force us to do things in the past. They failed.
This voting system in your State legislature is an interesting concept.
So what it means is that it still needs a simple majority vote to go into law in Sept, but a super majority passes it on the day of the vote.
How do they manage the process of deciding the date (Sept in this case)? How do they ensure there is time for the bill to be debated and voted on before that date if the house has a lot of bills in the pipeline? Is it 6 months on from the date of the bill being submitted or is it variable depending on how busy the House is?
Generally, the legislature in finished with its session by the end of May. Any bill passed during the session generally goes into effect September 1st of that year (unless passed by a 2/3 majority to allow it to go into effect as soon as signed). So debate, discussion etc will happen between now and end of May.
-
I do think this proposed legislation does eliminate 1204 and every district will be able to set separate game fees. Not so sure that is a good idea. That can allow schools to cut fees for budgetary reasons -- could create shortages in some areas. On the other hand -- true supply and demand economics will be in play -- schools and officials will have to find a "fair market price" for services or shortages of officials will occur in some areas or sports.
-
Mr. Weber,
Thank you for your support of Texas sports officials with the introduction of HB 3028. I appreciate your efforts and will be watching closely. What is going on with the tyrants that run the UIL is an absolute travesty and your attempt to control this "government agency" from running amok and abusing their power is crucial to interscholastic athletics in Texas.
-
I do think this proposed legislation does eliminate 1204 and every district will be able to set separate game fees. Not so sure that is a good idea. That can allow schools to cut fees for budgetary reasons -- could create shortages in some areas. On the other hand -- true supply and demand economics will be in play -- schools and officials will have to find a "fair market price" for services or shortages of officials will occur in some areas or sports.
Heck...everyone else has collective bargaining...why not referees!!!
Seriously, I think you'll see regional collaborations of TASO chapters get together and agree to set fair prices for chapters and schools. I would love to meet at the Regional Education Service Centers with the AD's and Supers to set a rate that would be uniform for the whole region. I think that we would get fair treatment and some of our regional issues would be better resolved by a regional consortium than by an oppressive state agency that tries to set a one size fits all policy. Texas is a large and a very diverse place. Metro officials have different issues than rural officials. I believe that we are 100% capable of working with the schools we serve to create a mutually beneficial agreement that works for both parties.
-
(b)AAThe University Interscholastic League may not register,
charge fees to, or require membership in or attempt to register,
charge fees to, or require membership in any sponsoring
organization of sports officials as a precondition for a sports
official to contract with a school district or open-enrollment
charter school.
Anyone else here have the concern that I do about this in regards to (b). Plain language interpretation would mean they cannot require membership in any organization, that would include TASO. So everyone could just contract on their own with no regulation at all. I see the problem of: "Coach my buddies and I would like to buy you lunch 3 days a week and we'll make sure you are well taken care of on Friday nights". Isn't this the problem that led to the formation of SOA back in the 30's? Sometimes you do need some level of regulation.
I did not see this at first but yes this clause could cause issues.
-
How many bills get passed the way they are written? This just invites an amendment before passage.
-
The way I'm reading this - if passed, it will allow "rogue" crews to accept assignments with no affiliation to either UIL or TASO. Be afraid when Politicians become involved in your business - very afraid. >:D
-
How many bills get passed the way they are written? This just invites an amendment before passage.
I wonder if the wording on "sponsoring" is supposed to imply from or within the UIL?
-
The way I'm reading this - if passed, it will allow "rogue" crews to accept assignments with no affiliation to either UIL or TASO. Be afraid when Politicians become involved in your business - very afraid. >:D
Nice, and this is what we wanted to begin with two years ago. Ok back to reading mechanics.
-
The way I'm reading this - if passed, it will allow "rogue" crews to accept assignments with no affiliation to either UIL or TASO. Be afraid when Politicians become involved in your business - very afraid. >:D
Seems that this legislation gets the politicians/bureaucrats out of our business. This is deregulation.
Don't you think that schools/coaches would seek to continue to affiliate with local chapters for services instead of seeking independent operators?
-
I think you guys are completely missing the boat on section b.
This is the United States, the legislature is NOT going to give monopolistic powers to ANY private organization. TASO has never said it wants to be a monopoly, just that is unfair to compete with the UIL because the UIL has the ability to give game assignments. TASO is absolutely willing to compete with other private (or as termed earlier "rogue") entities. TASO will win that competition every time. Every coach would rather have a TASO affiliated Chapter assign its games then the "Getting Fat" Chapter where Getting Fat promises to supply officials he finds but cannot promise those officials have the same training, resources, and pool of officials to choose from as a TASO Chapter.
This is a win-win, and I have no concerns with TASO's ability to compete on an even playing field.
-
Seems that this legislation gets the politicians/bureaucrats out of our business. This is deregulation.
Don't you think that schools/coaches would seek to continue to affiliate with local chapters for services instead of seeking independent operators?
In our area - absolutely. Not so sure in other areas. I also think the legislation can be "tweaked" with a few words here and there making it much more beneficial to TASO. I applaud the politician for trying to do something on TASO'S behalf - but I don't trust politicians. I would agree with z^ in that this issue is currently in the courts - let's see how that plays out before we start a new battle. Whatever the case - with weather like we have in Tyler today - I'm ready to put on the stripes!
-
You guys are welcome. He is my congressman and yes I voted for him. Go Randy.
-
Plain language interpretation would mean they cannot require membership in any organization, that would include TASO.
I don't think UIL should favor any organization. TASO needs to stand on their own and if another organization (or no specific org, but a group of officials) pop up and gets game assignments, that's fine with me.
If this were to go through, I don't anticipate basketball, for example, coming back to TASO. They'll form their own org.
-
This bill will accomplish what has been desperately needed for many years - a clear seaparation between the UIL and officials. However, it still doesn't solve the issue of assignment of officials. In fact, as written, it can throw the assignment process wide open - not a good thing. Schools/coaches will still have the ability to hire anyone they want, for whatever compensation to which they both agree. At best, unqualified or egotistical individuals can offer cut-rate services to secure assignments. At worst, unscrupulous individuals can offer and provide "favorable" officiating to employers to get assignments and/or greater compensation.
If this bill passes as is, TASO's best hope is to put its best foot forward and show that its members are, and always will be, better trained and more competent than those unaffiliated, and that TASO is willing to work with the UIL to establish a fair, reasonable, and consistent compensation package for its membership, state-wide. Schools/coaches must not be part of the official selection process, or TASO will be right back to where they were before all this started. TASO must insist that they be solely responsible for assigning its officials to contests, without input or influence from the schools. TASO must offer the UIL a state-wide assignment policy that allows for some level of 'refusal' by teams (i.e., a limited 'scratch' policy), as well as defines how officials will be assigned to contests. TASO must offer a methodology by which teams can have a game(s)/individual play(s) reviewed by a small multi-partisan committee (TASO/UIL/Independent third party) to resolve complaints, with an established plan for accountability by both sides (although the outcome of a 'final' score can never be changed).
This is, essentially, how it works for virtually all other levels of sports. The NCAA conferences, the AFL, the NFL, etc., each have a director/coordinator of officiating that maintains a staff of officials, has sole authority and responsibility for making assignments to contests, and has sole authority and responsibility for the quality of the officiating that is presented. The coordinator is responsible only to a "commissioner," never to the competitors. In this case, TASO would be the coordinator, and the UIL would be the commissioner (of sorts). If the UIL believed it could get superior officiating by working with another group, they would be free to 'fire' TASO, and go elsewhere, just as a commissioner can 'fire' a coordinator.
TASO's ability to maintain a staff of sufficient size and quality to fulfill all UIL assignments (all levels) would be its primary asset. But that asset would have to be maintained at a minimum performance level, or, just as in the business world, that asset becomes a liabilty and would be replaced.
Fair enough. Let's give it a try.
-
^flag
My question is that if this thing passes by the supermajority margin, would it, in any way, make the existing lawsuit by TASO vs. The UIL null and void? Why or why not? z^
-
Looks like there are several pieces of legislation that have been filed that might affect us. Text is not yet available online for all of them
HB 1286 Author: Howard, Donna | et al.
Last Action: 03/08/2011
Caption Version: Introduced
Caption: Relating to adoption of rules by the University Interscholastic League.
By:AAHoward of Travis H.B.ANo.A1286
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
AN ACT
relating to adoption of rules by the University Interscholastic
League.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTIONA1.AASubchapter D, Chapter 33, Education Code, is
amended by adding Section 33.0831 to read as follows:
Sec.A33.0831.AAUNIVERSITY INTERSCHOLASTIC LEAGUE RULES:
FISCAL IMPACT STATEMENT. (a) The legislative council of the
University Interscholastic League may not take final action on a
new or amended rule that would result in additional costs for a
member school unless a fiscal impact statement regarding the rule
has been completed in accordance with this section.
(b)AAFor purposes of Subsection (a), final action by the
legislative council means:
(1)AAsubmitting a rule to school superintendents, if
the submission is required under the legislative council ’s
procedures; or
(2)AAsubmitting a rule approved by the council to the
commissioner for the commissioner ’s approval under Section
33.083(b), if the rule does not require submission to school
superintendents under the legislative council ’s procedures.
(c)AAA fiscal impact statement regarding a rule must include:
(1)AAa projection of the costs to member schools of
complying with the rule during the five-year period following the
effective date of the rule; and
(2)AAan explanation of the methodology used to analyze
the fiscal impact of the rule and determine the costs projection
required by Subdivision (1).
(d)AAIf a fiscal impact statement is prepared for a rule, a
copy of the statement must be attached to the rule when it is
submitted for approval to school superintendents, if applicable,
and when it is submitted to the commissioner for approval.
SECTIONA2.AASection 33.0831, Education Code, as added by
this Act, applies only to a rule on which the legislative council of
the University Interscholastic League takes final action on or
after the effective date of this Act.
SECTIONA3.AAThis Act takes effect September 1, 2011.
HB 3028 Author: Weber
Last Action: 03/10/2011 H Filed
Caption Version: Introduced
Caption: Relating to activities by the University Interscholastic League involving sports officials.
(I already posted this one)
HB 3130 Author: Geren
Last Action: 03/10/2011 H Filed
Caption Version: Introduced
Caption: Relating to the registration of a referee of certain extracurricular athletic activities sponsored or sanctioned by certain public or private schools; providing penalties.
82R9953 MAW-D
By: Geren H.B. No. 3130
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
AN ACT
relating to the registration of a referee of certain extracurricular athletic activities sponsored or sanctioned by certain public or private schools; providing penalties.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Subtitle B, Title 13, Occupations Code, is amended by adding Chapter 2053 to read as follows:
CHAPTER 2053. REFEREES
SUBCHAPTER A. GENERAL PROVISIONS
Sec. 2053.001. DEFINITIONS. In this chapter:
(1) "Commission" means the Texas Commission of Licensing and Regulation.
(2) "Department" means the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation.
(3) "Referee" means a person who:
(A) is present on the field or court during an athletic or sporting event; and
(B) exercises supervision over the event and its participants.
Sec. 2053.002. APPLICABILITY. This chapter applies only to a referee of an extracurricular athletic activity sponsored or sanctioned by a public or private elementary or secondary school who receives payment for the referee's services from the school, a school district, or an organization that contracts with the school or school district to provide referee services.
Sec. 2053.003. PREEMPTION. A political subdivision of this state, the University Interscholastic League, a state agency, or another entity may not adopt a registration requirement for a referee to whom this chapter applies.
[Sections 2053.004-2053.100 reserved for expansion]
SUBCHAPTER B. DEPARTMENT POWERS AND DUTIES
Sec. 2053.101. GENERAL POWERS AND DUTIES. The department shall administer and enforce this chapter.
Sec. 2053.102. RULEMAKING AUTHORITY. The commission shall adopt rules necessary to administer and enforce this chapter.
[Sections 2053.103-2053.200 reserved for expansion]
SUBCHAPTER C. REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS
Sec. 2053.201. REGISTRATION REQUIRED. A person may not act as a referee of an extracurricular athletic activity sponsored or sanctioned by a public or private elementary or secondary school and held in this state unless the person is an individual who is registered with the department under this chapter.
Sec. 2053.202. ELIGIBILITY FOR REGISTRATION. An individual is eligible for registration under this chapter if the individual:
(1) is at least 18 years of age; and
(2) satisfies the requirements of this chapter and rules adopted under this chapter.
Sec. 2053.203. APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS. An applicant for registration as a referee must apply on a form prescribed by the department and submit a registration fee in the amount set by the commission.
Sec. 2053.204. TERM OF REGISTRATION. A certificate of registration issued under this chapter is valid for the period prescribed by the commission.
[Sections 2053.205-2053.300 reserved for expansion]
SUBCHAPTER D. REFUSAL TO REGISTER AND DISCIPLINARY PROCEDURES
Sec. 2053.301. REFUSAL TO REGISTER; SUSPENSION OR REVOCATION OF REGISTRATION. The commission may refuse to register or suspend or revoke the certificate of registration of any person for:
(1) violating this chapter or a rule adopted under this chapter; or
(2) making a substantial misrepresentation in an application for registration.
[Sections 2053.302-2053.400 reserved for expansion]
SUBCHAPTER E. ENFORCEMENT
Sec. 2053.401. DISCIPLINARY ACTION; ADMINISTRATIVE PENALTY. A person who violates this chapter or a rule adopted under this chapter is subject to any action or penalty authorized under Subchapter F or G, Chapter 51.
SECTION 2. (a) Not later than December 1, 2011, the Texas Commission of Licensing and Regulation shall adopt the rules, standards, procedures, and fees necessary to implement Chapter 2053, Occupations Code, as added by this Act.
(b) Notwithstanding Section 2053.201, Occupations Code, as added by this Act, a referee is not required to register under that section before January 1, 2012.
SECTION 3. (a) Except as provided by Subsection (b) of this section, this Act takes effect September 1, 2011.
(b) Subchapter E, Chapter 2053, Occupations Code, as added by this Act, takes effect January 1, 2012.
HB 3694 Author: Gallego
Last Action: 03/11/2011 H Filed
Caption Version: Introduced
Caption: Relating to certain requirements of sports officials by the University Interscholastic League.
(Text is not available yet for this one. This might be interesting. Gallego is from Alpine and I suspect most know what that could mean. If not, look here:
http://204.65.203.5/public/299568.pdf
http://204.65.203.5/public/466722.pdf
http://petegallego.com/UserFiles/File/E-Invite%203.pdf
HB 3709 Author: Hochberg
Last Action: 03/11/2011 H Filed
Caption Version: Introduced
Caption: Relating to reducing costs in public school extracurricular activities.
(Text not yet available online for this one)
-
Looks like there are several pieces of legislation that have been filed that might affect us. Text is not yet available online for all of them
HB 1286 Author: Howard, Donna | et al.
Last Action: 03/08/2011
Caption Version: Introduced
Caption: Relating to adoption of rules by the University Interscholastic League.
By:AAHoward of Travis H.B.ANo.A1286
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
AN ACT
relating to adoption of rules by the University Interscholastic
League.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTIONA1.AASubchapter D, Chapter 33, Education Code, is
amended by adding Section 33.0831 to read as follows:
Sec.A33.0831.AAUNIVERSITY INTERSCHOLASTIC LEAGUE RULES:
FISCAL IMPACT STATEMENT. (a) The legislative council of the
University Interscholastic League may not take final action on a
new or amended rule that would result in additional costs for a
member school unless a fiscal impact statement regarding the rule
has been completed in accordance with this section.
(b)AAFor purposes of Subsection (a), final action by the
legislative council means:
(1)AAsubmitting a rule to school superintendents, if
the submission is required under the legislative council ’s
procedures; or
(2)AAsubmitting a rule approved by the council to the
commissioner for the commissioner ’s approval under Section
33.083(b), if the rule does not require submission to school
superintendents under the legislative council ’s procedures.
(c)AAA fiscal impact statement regarding a rule must include:
(1)AAa projection of the costs to member schools of
complying with the rule during the five-year period following the
effective date of the rule; and
(2)AAan explanation of the methodology used to analyze
the fiscal impact of the rule and determine the costs projection
required by Subdivision (1).
(d)AAIf a fiscal impact statement is prepared for a rule, a
copy of the statement must be attached to the rule when it is
submitted for approval to school superintendents, if applicable,
and when it is submitted to the commissioner for approval.
SECTIONA2.AASection 33.0831, Education Code, as added by
this Act, applies only to a rule on which the legislative council of
the University Interscholastic League takes final action on or
after the effective date of this Act.
SECTIONA3.AAThis Act takes effect September 1, 2011.
HB 3028 Author: Weber
Last Action: 03/10/2011 H Filed
Caption Version: Introduced
Caption: Relating to activities by the University Interscholastic League involving sports officials.
(I already posted this one)
HB 3130 Author: Geren
Last Action: 03/10/2011 H Filed
Caption Version: Introduced
Caption: Relating to the registration of a referee of certain extracurricular athletic activities sponsored or sanctioned by certain public or private schools; providing penalties.
82R9953 MAW-D
By: Geren H.B. No. 3130
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
AN ACT
relating to the registration of a referee of certain extracurricular athletic activities sponsored or sanctioned by certain public or private schools; providing penalties.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Subtitle B, Title 13, Occupations Code, is amended by adding Chapter 2053 to read as follows:
CHAPTER 2053. REFEREES
SUBCHAPTER A. GENERAL PROVISIONS
Sec. 2053.001. DEFINITIONS. In this chapter:
(1) "Commission" means the Texas Commission of Licensing and Regulation.
(2) "Department" means the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation.
(3) "Referee" means a person who:
(A) is present on the field or court during an athletic or sporting event; and
(B) exercises supervision over the event and its participants.
Sec. 2053.002. APPLICABILITY. This chapter applies only to a referee of an extracurricular athletic activity sponsored or sanctioned by a public or private elementary or secondary school who receives payment for the referee's services from the school, a school district, or an organization that contracts with the school or school district to provide referee services.
Sec. 2053.003. PREEMPTION. A political subdivision of this state, the University Interscholastic League, a state agency, or another entity may not adopt a registration requirement for a referee to whom this chapter applies.
[Sections 2053.004-2053.100 reserved for expansion]
SUBCHAPTER B. DEPARTMENT POWERS AND DUTIES
Sec. 2053.101. GENERAL POWERS AND DUTIES. The department shall administer and enforce this chapter.
Sec. 2053.102. RULEMAKING AUTHORITY. The commission shall adopt rules necessary to administer and enforce this chapter.
[Sections 2053.103-2053.200 reserved for expansion]
SUBCHAPTER C. REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS
Sec. 2053.201. REGISTRATION REQUIRED. A person may not act as a referee of an extracurricular athletic activity sponsored or sanctioned by a public or private elementary or secondary school and held in this state unless the person is an individual who is registered with the department under this chapter.
Sec. 2053.202. ELIGIBILITY FOR REGISTRATION. An individual is eligible for registration under this chapter if the individual:
(1) is at least 18 years of age; and
(2) satisfies the requirements of this chapter and rules adopted under this chapter.
Sec. 2053.203. APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS. An applicant for registration as a referee must apply on a form prescribed by the department and submit a registration fee in the amount set by the commission.
Sec. 2053.204. TERM OF REGISTRATION. A certificate of registration issued under this chapter is valid for the period prescribed by the commission.
[Sections 2053.205-2053.300 reserved for expansion]
SUBCHAPTER D. REFUSAL TO REGISTER AND DISCIPLINARY PROCEDURES
Sec. 2053.301. REFUSAL TO REGISTER; SUSPENSION OR REVOCATION OF REGISTRATION. The commission may refuse to register or suspend or revoke the certificate of registration of any person for:
(1) violating this chapter or a rule adopted under this chapter; or
(2) making a substantial misrepresentation in an application for registration.
[Sections 2053.302-2053.400 reserved for expansion]
SUBCHAPTER E. ENFORCEMENT
Sec. 2053.401. DISCIPLINARY ACTION; ADMINISTRATIVE PENALTY. A person who violates this chapter or a rule adopted under this chapter is subject to any action or penalty authorized under Subchapter F or G, Chapter 51.
SECTION 2. (a) Not later than December 1, 2011, the Texas Commission of Licensing and Regulation shall adopt the rules, standards, procedures, and fees necessary to implement Chapter 2053, Occupations Code, as added by this Act.
(b) Notwithstanding Section 2053.201, Occupations Code, as added by this Act, a referee is not required to register under that section before January 1, 2012.
SECTION 3. (a) Except as provided by Subsection (b) of this section, this Act takes effect September 1, 2011.
(b) Subchapter E, Chapter 2053, Occupations Code, as added by this Act, takes effect January 1, 2012.
HB 3694 Author: Gallego
Last Action: 03/11/2011 H Filed
Caption Version: Introduced
Caption: Relating to certain requirements of sports officials by the University Interscholastic League.
(Text is not available yet for this one. This might be interesting. Gallego is from Alpine and I suspect most know what that could mean. If not, look here:
http://204.65.203.5/public/299568.pdf
http://204.65.203.5/public/466722.pdf
http://petegallego.com/UserFiles/File/E-Invite%203.pdf
HB 3709 Author: Hochberg
Last Action: 03/11/2011 H Filed
Caption Version: Introduced
Caption: Relating to reducing costs in public school extracurricular activities.
(Text not yet available online for this one)
^flag
According to this proposed legislation, it appears to take the UIL out of the mix, in essence taking it out of the officiating business and making the tiphat: Good UIL Dr. justify the existence of the :!# Dancing Monkey who by this decree would have no officials to govern. With the state governmental shortfall of funds, Good Time Charlie would be hard pressed to even keep him on even in some other official UIL capacity, much less a lot of the other UIL staff.
If this budget shortfall comes to pass, there ought to be a lot more empty offices over there on Manor Road! z^
-
To clarify, my post included several pieces of legislation that were filed recently and which included generally different factors. I assume you are referring to the bill related to UIL giving fiscal impact statements?
-
A license to officiate? More regulation? pi1eOn
-
In a manner of speaking you have to have one now. It is either from UIL or TASO.
-
The bill 3694, filed by Rep Gallego, seems pretty mundane:
, Bill Number: TX82RHB 3694 Filed: 03-11-2011
Author: Gallego
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
1 AN ACT
2 relating to certain requirements of sports officials by the
3 University Interscholastic League.
4 BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
5 SECTION 1. Subchapter D, Chapter 33, Education Code, is
6 amended by adding Section 33.085 to read as follows:
7 Sec. 33.085. CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS BY INTERSCHOLASTIC
8 LEAGUES INVOLVING SPORTS OFFICIALS. (a) In this section,
9 "sports official":
10 (1) means a person who officiates, judges, or in any
11 manner enforces contest rules in any official capacity with
12 respect to an interscholastic, intercollegiate, or other
13 organized amateur or professional athletic competition; and
14 (2) includes a referee, umpire, linesman, side judge,
15 track or field marshal, timekeeper, down marker, or scorekeeper
16 or any other person involved in supervising competitive play.
17 (b) CRIMINAL BACKGROUND VERIFICATION REQUIRED. The
18 University Interscholastic League may refuse to certify a person
19 as a sports official or may suspend or revoke the certification
20 of any sports official if the person has been convicted of a
21 felony or misdemeanor including:
22 (1) an offense involving moral turpitude;
23 (2) an offense involving a form of sexual or physical
24 abuse of a minor or student or other illegal conduct in which
1
1 the victim is a minor or student;
2 (3) a felony offense involving the possession,
3 transfer, sale, or distribution of or conspiracy to possess,
4 transfer, sell, or distribute a controlled substance, as defined
5 by Chapter 481, Health and Safety Code, or by 21 U.S.C. Section
6 801 et seq.;
7 (4) an offense involving the illegal transfer,
8 appropriation, or use of school district funds or other district
9 property; or
10 (5) an offense involving an attempt by fraudulent or
11 unauthorized means to obtain or alter a professional certificate
12 or license issued under this section.
13 SECTION 2. This Act takes effect immediately if it
14 receives a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each
15 house, as provided by Section 39, Article III, Texas
16 Constitution. If this Act does not receive the vote necessary
17 for immediate effect, this Act takes effect September 1, 2011.
-
In a manner of speaking you have to have one now. It is either from UIL or TASO.
Not one issued directly from a state agency and which will no doubt be on top of any membership fees.
-
This one could make things ugly for a lot of folks but does not seem to understand how UIL and the school districts are related. :o)
By: Hochberg H.B. No. 3709
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
AN ACT
relating to reducing costs in public school extracurricular
activities.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Subchapter D, Chapter 33, Education Code, is
amended by adding Section 33.090 to read as follows:
Sec. 33.090. COST REDUCTIONS IN EXTRACURRICULAR
ACTIVITIES. (a) The University Interscholastic League shall
establish rules and policies to achieve annual savings of at least
20 percent in costs expended by school districts for University
Interscholastic League athletic programs. The University
Interscholastic League shall implement these rules and policies no
later than the start of the 2012-2013 school year and shall continue
the rules and policies throughout at least the 2016-2017 school
year. The rules and policies proposed under this section shall be
approved by the commissioner prior to implementation by the
University Interscholastic League.
(b) In approving the rules and policies proposed by the
University Interscholastic League under this section, the
commissioner shall ensure that the proposed rules and policies will
achieve the annual cost savings under Subsection (a) and will
distribute cost savings proportionally under Subsection (d).
(c) To achieve the annual savings required in Subsection
(a), University Interscholastic League may consider the following
cost saving measures including, but not limited to:
(1) setting limits on the number of coaches and
support staff for one or more sports;
(2) requiring all coaches who are full-time employees
of the school district to teach a minimum of one course each
semester from the required curriculum under Section 28.002;
(3) reducing the number of games played per season;
(4) reducing the number of tournaments played per
season;
(5) limiting the number of games and tournaments on
weekdays;
(6) requiring varsity and sub-varsity participants to
travel together where schedules permit to reduce school district
travel costs;
(7) reducing the size of officiating crews;
(8) requiring coaches to coach more than one sport;
(9) allowing coaches to be employed by the school
district on a part-time or voluntary basis; or
(10) any other cost saving measure approved by the
commissioner.
(d) To the extent practicable, the rules and policies
implemented under this section shall distribute cost savings
proportionally to the cost of each sport.
(e) The rules and policies implemented under this section
shall not be changed before 2016-2017 unless replaced with similar
cost saving measures approved by the commissioner.
SECTION 2. This Act takes effect September 1, 2011.
-
Uninformed would be the best description for anyone who proposed or supports this one. And talk about over reaching!?!? This is so far outside the legitmate role of state government it will never pass.
-
(1) "Commission" means the Texas Commission of Licensing and Regulation.
(2) "Department" means the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation
No offense to you Texans, but is it really necessary to have a Commission and a Department to do the same thing? Couldn't you just combine the two into the Department of Redundancy Department?
-
(1) "Commission" means the Texas Commission of Licensing and Regulation.
(2) "Department" means the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation
No offense to you Texans, but is it really necessary to have a Commission and a Department to do the same thing? Couldn't you just combine the two into the Department of Redundancy Department?
Sorry but that department is extremely busy doing the same thing over and over again. LOL
-
Uninformed would be the best description for anyone who proposed or supports this one. And talk about over reaching!?!? This is so far outside the legitmate role of state government it will never pass.
Agreed. They need to leave it to the local ISD's to identify when and where to cut. This is coming from someone that used to play in band. You notice they didn't say anything about reducing the number of arts programs that are under the UIL, band, poetry, prose, number sense, debate, etc. Someone has a hard-on for athletics.
-
(1) "Commission" means the Texas Commission of Licensing and Regulation.
(2) "Department" means the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation
No offense to you Texans, but is it really necessary to have a Commission and a Department to do the same thing? Couldn't you just combine the two into the Department of Redundancy Department?
^flag
Sorry, but I can't help but think that the UIL has long held the exclusive rights to the moniker "Department of Redundancy Department." z^
-
While I am sure the athletic departments cost the ISD's the most money, they also bring in the most.
Certainly no disrespect but the $5 ticket to see a production of "Mary Poppins", which might be attended by 200 people, fails to meet the income % of any sporting event that charges admission.
However 50%, if not more, of the folks that attend football games are there for the band, cheerleaders, drill team, etc.
-
HB 3028 (the bill by Rep Weber that started the thread) has been sent to the Public Education Committee. Long way to go before it becomes law but it is moving.
-
Did it go as written or was it amended?
-
Not sure but I don't think it can be amended until it is in the committee
-
Thanks Mike. I'm not familar how the process works on amending house bills.
-
Was actually filed March 15 and posted.
-
Rep. Gallego's Bill ( HB 3694) is scheduled for public hearing on Apr 12.
Kind of confusing bill. It insinuates that criminal background verification is required but does not actually say that it is or how it will be done. But it does list disqualifying offenses.
By: Gallego H.B. No. 3694
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
AN ACT
relating to certain requirements of sports officials by the University Interscholastic League.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Subchapter D, Chapter 33, Education Code, is amended by adding Section 33.085 to read as follows:
Sec. 33.085. CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS BY INTERSCHOLASTIC LEAGUES INVOLVING SPORTS OFFICIALS. (a) In this section, "sports official":
(1) means a person who officiates, judges, or in any manner enforces contest rules in any official capacity with respect to an interscholastic, intercollegiate, or other organized amateur or professional athletic competition; and
(2) includes a referee, umpire, linesman, side judge, track or field marshal, timekeeper, down marker, or scorekeeper or any other person involved in supervising competitive play.
(b) CRIMINAL BACKGROUND VERIFICATION REQUIRED. The University Interscholastic League may refuse to certify a person as a sports official or may suspend or revoke the certification of any sports official if the person has been convicted of a felony or misdemeanor including:
(1) an offense involving moral turpitude;
(2) an offense involving a form of sexual or physical abuse of a minor or student or other illegal conduct in which the victim is a minor or student;
(3) a felony offense involving the possession, transfer, sale, or distribution of or conspiracy to possess, transfer, sell, or distribute a controlled substance, as defined by Chapter 481, Health and Safety Code, or by 21 U.S.C. Section 801 et seq.;
(4) an offense involving the illegal transfer, appropriation, or use of school district funds or other district property; or
(5) an offense involving an attempt by fraudulent or unauthorized means to obtain or alter a professional certificate or license issued under this section.
SECTION 2. This Act takes effect immediately if it receives a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each house, as provided by Section 39, Article III, Texas Constitution. If this Act does not receive the vote necessary for immediate effect, this Act takes effect September 1, 2011.
-
(2) includes a referee, umpire, linesman, side judge, track or field marshal, timekeeper, down marker, or scorekeeper or any other person involved in supervising competitive play.
(
So according to his bill you can be a back judge and have a criminal record? LOL
-
The back judge is supervising the crew so I guess he is exempted.
-
The back judge is supervising the crew so I guess he is exempted.
That sounds accurate. ;)
-
The back judge is supervising the crew so I guess he is exempted.
True, he does remind me of a TX DOT road supervisor. nAnA
-
By Legislative Construction the including list would not be exhaustive but merely part of what could be grounds for exclusion or suspension. By plain language construction it could be any felony or misdemeanor would allow for revocation or suspension of being allowed to participate. Would be better if did have some exclusion for Class C traffic offenses but this could be found to be a misdemeanor for suspension purposes. Folks at the LEG. always have some idea for a perceived problem but don't think too much about the actual application of their solution till it becomes a problem later. I am sure this is in response to the sex offender working basketball and they see using broad language as good but don't think about the fine print. I think the idea is good and don't mind a background check but I can see this being used improvidently in the wrong hands as well.
-
...I can see this being used improvidently in the wrong hands as well.
^flag
More especially in the hands of the Manor Road Crowd! z^
-
maybe they should suspend tony timmons for being a sex offender. he's trying to screw every taso official.
-
Looks like 3028 (prohibiting UIL from registering officials) is set for public hearing on April 19.
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/Actions.aspx?LegSess=82R&Bill=HB3028
3130 which mandates officials be licensed by the state also is set for a hearing that day.
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/Actions.aspx?LegSess=82R&Bill=HB3130
-
For anyone who has not done so, now would be the time to email your representative encouraging them to support HB 3028 and HB 3130.
-
The Committee members:
Chair: Rep. Rob Eissler
Vice Chair: Rep. Scott Hochberg
Members: Rep. Alma Allen
Rep. Jimmie Don Aycock
Rep. Harold V. Dutton, Jr.
Rep. Ryan Guillen
Rep. Dan Huberty
Rep. Mark Shelton
Rep. Todd Smith
Rep. Mark Strama
Rep. Randy Weber
-
I was just reading the text of HB3130 and it looks like we will be under another state agency, Texas Commission on Licensing and Regulation. According to what I read, we are to register with the "Department" and the "Department" is defined as Texas Commission on Licensing and Regulation. If some of you that have more information on this please elaborate. I have hoped we would get things under TASO and not have any state control.
-
I was just reading the text of HB3130 and it looks like we will be under another state agency, Texas Commission on Licensing and Regulation. According to what I read, we are to register with the "Department" and the "Department" is defined as Texas Commission on Licensing and Regulation. If some of you that have more information on this please elaborate. I have hoped we would get things under TASO and not have any state control.
^flag
So under that scenario, would the tiphat: Good UIL Dr. have to dispatch his :!# Dancing Monkey over to that "new" state department to head up that job? z^
-
For anyone who has not done so, now would be the time to email your representative encouraging them to support HB 3028 and HB 3130.
Already contacted my reps when 3028 was first filed but now I need to send another contact asking them to oppose 3130.
-
What is your gripe with 3130? Seems to me it would pre-empt UIL and shut down their takeover once and for all?
-
Because it is another unnecessary fee/tax and what's to stop the UIL from collecting their own fee anyways ( assuming they are not barred from legally). Either way, we will have to pay for this, a state level fee and a local chapter fee. I don't see the need...and if you want to implement background checks, why can't TASO handle that?
-
I'm not fond of the wording in either bill. I have been told they would be amended, but until they are it's hard for me to fully support them.
-
The difference:
UIL - can charge more than their costs to officials. Unfettered, unchecked, whatever amount they want to charge.
TDLR - by statute can only charge costs. They can run a background check for $10. That would save officials' money if TASO were required to conduct background costs.
3130 passes, and all officials will save money, undergo background checks, and the UIL is prevented in undergoing their takeover efforts.