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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: refjb on May 31, 2011, 05:35:32 PM

Title: fumble behind LOS
Post by: refjb on May 31, 2011, 05:35:32 PM

Q: Loose ball behind line of scrimmage.  Team “A” line of scrimmage 25 yard line, loose ball at the 15 Yard line Team “B” pulls “A” facemask (15 yard type of facemask) at the 20 yard line, team “B” recovers ball at the 15 Yard line.

Where is penalty marked off from?

Title: Re: fumble behind LOS
Post by: 7rav1s on May 31, 2011, 06:47:16 PM

From the 25 so team A ball at the a40 yard line (no automatic 1st down). Checked Reddings to confirm and fumble behind NZ is a loose ball play so the basic spot is the previous spot.

Title: Re: fumble behind LOS
Post by: Wont_Do_To_Tell on May 31, 2011, 07:55:01 PM

loose ball play.....enf. spot is prev. spot.............A keeps the ball

Title: Re: fumble behind LOS
Post by: Bob M. on June 01, 2011, 08:34:59 PM

REPLY: Correct...and consider this. Team A does better by fumbling the ball. If he had held onto it, the foul would have occurred during a running play and the penalty would be enforced from the end of the run.

[Edited to clarify: One thing that's important in the original play WHERE the did the ball actually become loose. If it became loose behind the NZ then everything said thus far is true. If it became loose beyond the NZ (say, A's 30) and then rolled back behind the NZ, enforcement would be from the end of the rune--A's 30.]

Title: Re: fumble behind LOS
Post by: refjb on June 01, 2011, 08:50:10 PM

Good twist to the play Bob.