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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: bossman72 on October 20, 2011, 10:25:41 PM

Title: 10-sec runoff situation?
Post by: bossman72 on October 20, 2011, 10:25:41 PM

Under 1:00, team A completes a pass over the middle for a first down.  Clock stops for the chains.  WR gets up and immediately throws the ball in the face of a team B player.  Flag down.

Would this be a 10 second runoff?  Even though we WILL run the clock on the RFP, the FOUL ITSELF did not stop the clock - it was stopped for the first down.

Thoughts?

Title: Re: 10-sec runoff situation?
Post by: MJT on October 20, 2011, 11:17:37 PM

I do not see how it would. The foul did not stop the clock and it doesn't fit any of the criteria of 3-4-4. After the enforcement, the clock will start on the RFP.

Title: Re: 10-sec runoff situation?
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on October 21, 2011, 06:09:12 AM

How about this variation of the original play:

Under 1:00 in the game, 2nd and 8, team A is behind by 4 with no TO's and completes a 5 yard pass over the middle.  WR is on the ground with B on top of him preventing him from getting up.   A struggles to get up and after 5-6 seconds he finally does get up and he then immediately throws the ball in the face of the team B player who was on top of him.  Flag down - clock is stopped.  What do we have?

Title: Re: 10-sec runoff situation?
Post by: bossman72 on October 21, 2011, 10:42:03 AM

Quote from: NVFOA_Ump on October 21, 2011, 06:09:12 AM

How about this variation of the original play:

Under 1:00 in the game, 2nd and 8, team A is behind by 4 with no TO's and completes a 5 yard pass over the middle.  WR is on the ground with B on top of him preventing him from getting up.   A struggles to get up and after 5-6 seconds he finally does get up and he then immediately throws the ball in the face of the team B player who was on top of him.  Flag down - clock is stopped.  What do we have?

This would be a runoff since the foul stops the clock.

Title: Re: 10-sec runoff situation?
Post by: Osric Pureheart on October 21, 2011, 12:51:28 PM

I would be inclined to call delay of game on Team B for failing to unpile (AR 3-4-2 II), go 5 forward and 15 back, clock on the snap, and the delay of game stopped the clock; so no Zap 10 for Bubba.