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Football Officiating => Texas Topics => Topic started by: Headlinesman on November 16, 2011, 03:40:08 AM
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Did I notice a Tyler crew working a high school playoff game with a 7 man crew and wearing their college officiating shirts?
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Cameras are everywhere these days
http://www.wacotrib.com/photos/Waco-High-vs-Mansfield-Summit-football-playoff-Nov-11-2011.html?photo=10&c=Y
http://www.wacotrib.com/photos/Waco-High-vs-Mansfield-Summit-football-playoff-Nov-11-2011.html?photo=23&c=Y
http://www.wacotrib.com/photos/Waco-High-vs-Mansfield-Summit-football-playoff-Nov-11-2011.html?photo=27&c=Y
http://www.wacotrib.com/photos/Waco-High-vs-Mansfield-Summit-football-playoff-Nov-11-2011.html?photo=39&c=Y
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Well I am sure they must have gotten permission from someone...just that someone didnt have the authority to tell them that it was okay..... nAnA
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Just so this doesn't get out of hand, the decision was made within the crew that night and no one in an official capacity with the chapter approved it, knew it had happened (until receiving an email fom TASO), or would have given them permission to do so!!
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Just so this doesn't get out of hand, the decision was made within the crew that night and no one in an official capacity with the chapter approved it, knew it had happened (until receiving an email fom TASO), or would have given them permission to do so!!
^flag
Oh, they could go ahead and cop a plea of certain insanity by just saying that the :!# Dancing Monkey of :bOW Manor Road gave them express permission to don those stripes for that game! After all, when TASO says "No," :bOW Manor Road will say "Yes!" z^
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The bigger stripes make the R look skinnier. Did he eat his Umpire for dinner? My god the uniform does not get you any more credit with the coach, but being in shape will.
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Sorry TexDoc for removing your post, but this wasnt the place to name the officials involved. It will be handled internally by TASO.
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Was the post more about the striped shirts or the 7 man crew ?
The Flower mound Marcus v Fossil Ridge at Dallas Cowboy Stadium had a 7 man college crew, but they wore the " TASO " approved stripes.
I like the 7 man crew idea.
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Was this game televised? The crew also has position placards on their 'illegal shirts.' double whammy?
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I would have to disagree with Yogi's post that any Chapter would have given permission for a crew to wear college shirts. Position placards are optional according to the book but on the approved shirt but why bring more attention to your self than necessary? Everyone has been informed on a multitude of occasions (clinics/meetings) that things in Texas High School Football are to be done by the mechanics book. Some just tend to be rebels and this is not the arena to be a rebel.
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I would have to disagree with Yogi's post that any Chapter would have given permission for a crew to wear college shirts.
yogi didn't say that
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from on or around the 7th of September...
ALL OFFICIALS WORKING TEXAS HIGH SCHOOL VARSITY GAMES MUST WEAR THE APPROVED UNIFORM.
Unless approved by the TASO-Football Board of Directors, officials may not work varsity football games in anything other than the approved uniform. You are permitted to wear knickers or long black pants, but no other variations are allowed.
It has come to my attention that some officials are working high school games wearing an NCAA collegiate shirt with 2” stripes. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND MUST STOP IMMEDIATELY!
The NFL and NCAA purposely adopted shirts that are unique to their level of play. It is inappropriate for high school officials to wear an NCAA or NFL shirt while working high school games. The required uniform is clearly described the TASO mechanics manual and the UIL and TAPPS fully support the requirement that Texas high school football officials wear a 1” stripe shirt, not the 2” stripped NCAA collegiate shirt.
There will be no exceptions made.
Cooper
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"or would have given them permission to do so"!! Copied and pasted from his post.
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pretty sure he is saying that no one in the chapter would have... but let's see..
no one in an official capacity with the chapter approved it, knew it had happened (until receiving an email fom TASO), or would have given them permission to do so!!
yup, pretty sure that is saying that they would not have approved it...
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Just so this doesn't get out of hand, the decision was made within the crew that night and no one in an official capacity with the chapter approved it, knew it had happened (until receiving an email fom TASO), or would have given them permission to do so!!
Sure looks like he said the following: No one approved it. No one knew about it. No one would have given permission if they did know about it.
I would have to disagree with Yogi's post that any Chapter would have given permission for a crew to wear college shirts.
Just don't see how you get that from what he said.
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My mistake. I agree he is saying no one would approve.
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Was the post more about the striped shirts or the 7 man crew ?
The Flower mound Marcus v Fossil Ridge at Dallas Cowboy Stadium had a 7 man college crew, but they wore the " TASO " approved stripes.
I like the 7 man crew idea.
We have used 7 man crews twice in the playoffs. We offer it to all of them. We just wear regular stripes.
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Sorry TexDoc for removing your post, but this wasnt the place to name the officials involved. It will be handled internally by TASO.
I apologize to those guys that were named. We all have lapses in judgment, and I posted their names. That's a joke in case you didn't catch it.
In the words of our illustrious governor, "oops."
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I apologize to those guys that were named. We all have lapses in judgment, and I posted their names. That's a joke in case you didn't catch it.
In the words of our illustrious governor, "oops."
You mean:
"in the words of our illustrious governor, 'ummm i errr, i uuh, hmmm uuhh whaaaa, ummm...'"
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^flagThese boys need to be benched for the remainder of the playoffs, and next post-season as well. Willful disregard of the uniform standards to advance the perception of your crew as "big time" is simply unacceptable from those who are charged with enforcing the rules.
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This crew is working a 3A game this week in Weatherford. I highly doubt they wear the same shirts.
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It is perplexing they would have chosen to do it last weekend since the TASO directive (which I think was reinforced even by the UIL) had been out for awhile already. Hopefully it was a case of the 10% who never get the word and not a deliberate snubbing of the nose.
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Hey, i have a sidebar question regading unis...chain crew uni is white polo, knickers, socks, black shoes. I had a colleague ask about what we can wear if it gets COLD. What are our regulations on cold weather attire on the chains?
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It is perplexing they would have chosen to do it last weekend since the TASO directive (which I think was reinforced even by the UIL) had been out for awhile already. Hopefully it was a case of the 10% who never get the word and not a deliberate snubbing of the nose.
It is also perplexing that this crew break a rule for whatever reason and then receives another game assignment. This will only lead to more crews (big timing it) to get more games. I am sure there is another crew in their chapter that is capable of handling that game. Even if it is just for one week it would send an appropriate message.
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Hey, i have a sidebar question regading unis...chain crew uni is white polo, knickers, socks, black shoes. I had a colleague ask about what we can wear if it gets COLD. What are our regulations on cold weather attire on the chains?
I would like to see the chain crew wearing black pants. We are making the first and second year guys waste money on knickers and socks. Is it TASO required that chain crew wear white knickers?
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I dont see why more coaches request 7 man crews.
Or is it because the chapters are not offering that option????
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I would like to see the chain crew wearing black pants. We are making the first and second year guys waste money on knickers and socks. Is it TASO required that chain crew wear white knickers?
As long as they all wear the same thing, I don't know why wearing black pants would an issue on the chain crew. Then again, I'm not the authority. I just act like it sometimes.
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There are no published TASO requirements re uniform for chain crews (or timers).
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Mike,
I may be wrong but I believe the Football Board at the San Antonio meeting, directed that chain crews were to wear the knickers and white shirts.....I am checking on that now.
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That would be great info if you come across something. So far the chain crews that we have encountered have worn the black pants.
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I recall a discussion but do not recall a resolution And if there was a resolution, it did not make it into the mechanics manual.
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see, this is what I told him as well, everything that y'all are saying. I didnt really have an answer, all I could say was what I was told the uni was. I've only ever run chains in the dome, so weather was never an issue.
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You are representing your Chapter so I would look for guidance from them so at least you are all 3 uniform, whatever that uniform happens to be. (And I sure would hope they do not say anything that would make anyone have to buy new uniform items for this)
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When our chapter runs chains, it is in knickers and white polo style shirt with black and white socks and black shoes.
I would like to see us change to Black pants (like for varsity) with white polo style shirt. But, I havent done a lot of chains this year either.
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It is also perplexing that this crew break a rule for whatever reason and then receives another game assignment. This will only lead to more crews (big timing it) to get more games. I am sure there is another crew in their chapter that is capable of handling that game. Even if it is just for one week it would send an appropriate message.
We are telling the chain crew to wear what they want so long as they are all dress alike.
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Mike, you wouldl be correct, we didnt make it to the mechanics manual with it. We left it up to the chapters to decide how they wanted their chain crews to dress. As long as they all dress the same, I guess it really doesnt matter.......
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It is also perplexing that this crew break a rule for whatever reason and then receives another game assignment. This will only lead to more crews (big timing it) to get more games. I am sure there is another crew in their chapter that is capable of handling that game. Even if it is just for one week it would send an appropriate message.
Pretty sure they had this week's game assigned prior to anyone knowing about last week's uniform. It appears that chapter leadership didn't find out until Wednesday.