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Title: 2011 National Federation Football Rules Questionnaire
Post by: Rulesman on December 01, 2011, 03:08:52 PM
Available at www.nfhs.org/questionnaire. Questionnaire closes on January 6, 2012.
Title: Re: 2011 National Federation Football Rules Questionnaire
Post by: mbyron on December 01, 2011, 08:20:18 PM
Anyone have the answers?
 ;D
Title: Re: 2011 National Federation Football Rules Questionnaire
Post by: Curious on December 02, 2011, 07:57:24 AM
Anyone have the answers?
 ;D

No answers here; but the survey does, I think, give us some insight on where the Rules committee might be headed...

Good time for us to weigh in!

Thanks, Rulesman, for the heads up.
Title: Re: 2011 National Federation Football Rules Questionnaire
Post by: TampaSteve on December 02, 2011, 08:48:19 AM
Remove hurdling: a big 'yes' from here.
Remove player if helmet comes off: personally  I support it, but really not a big deal round these parts; however, I believe it was on the docket for last year's NCAA changes & was turned down due to it being (paraphrase) 'another thing to account for before a play goes off'
Title: Re: 2011 National Federation Football Rules Questionnaire
Post by: HLinNC on December 02, 2011, 01:30:18 PM
NC required us to record each incident in varsity games where the helmet comes off and submit a post game list to the state office this season.  I expect we will see increased emphasis and scrutiny of proper helmet fitting by school staff this off-season.

I'm not in favor of removing the player as I've yet to see any damage done from it but I can see it being done as a tool to emphasize to coaches that they better make sure they are properly fitting their players.
Title: Re: 2011 National Federation Football Rules Questionnaire
Post by: Curious on December 02, 2011, 04:03:41 PM
NC required us to record each incident in varsity games where the helmet comes off and submit a post game list to the state office this season.  I expect we will see increased emphasis and scrutiny of proper helmet fitting by school staff this off-season.

I'm not in favor of removing the player as I've yet to see any damage done from it but I can see it being done as a tool to emphasize to coaches that they better make sure they are properly fitting their players.

So we can blame you guys...... ^flag ^flag
Title: Re: 2011 National Federation Football Rules Questionnaire
Post by: HLinNC on December 02, 2011, 04:40:51 PM
No, not entirely, :

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Remember to send in your helmet reports. You have been doing a fantastic job with this information. This is a national study, so it is crucial I get all reports of helmets being dislodged. Thanks again for a job well done. We will do this study through the end of the regular season, but will not collect data during the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2011 National Federation Football Rules Questionnaire
Post by: Curious on December 02, 2011, 04:45:53 PM
No, not entirely, :

Interesting...we here in Michigan were never asked to capture this data (thankfully, I might add).

(But we have to blame somebody!)
Title: Re: 2011 National Federation Football Rules Questionnaire
Post by: bama_stripes on December 03, 2011, 10:57:06 AM
Thoought it interesting that there was no mention of changing the definition of a legal formation  to "no more than four backs" rather than "at least seven linemen".
Title: Re: 2011 National Federation Football Rules Questionnaire
Post by: Atlanta Blue on December 03, 2011, 01:01:10 PM
This came up at the rules meeting last year and I don't think it even got out of committee.

To me it makes sense, which is why it probably won't happen.
Title: Re: 2011 National Federation Football Rules Questionnaire
Post by: NorCalMike on December 05, 2011, 01:00:08 AM
It's too bad they wouldn't let us add comments. Apparently the don't want any additional suggestions.
Title: Re: 2011 National Federation Football Rules Questionnaire
Post by: Rulesman on December 05, 2011, 07:56:55 AM
It's too bad they wouldn't let us add comments. Apparently the don't want any additional suggestions.
Proposals/suggestions have to be channeled through you state office.
Title: Re: 2011 National Federation Football Rules Questionnaire
Post by: Curious on December 05, 2011, 08:49:53 AM
"It's too bad they wouldn't let us add comments. Apparently the don't want any additional suggestion"...

Proposals/suggestions have to be channeled through you state office.

This is why I started the "Let's Fix It" thread for NFHS rules.  I'm consolidating everything  the Refstripes member have sent in and will send them to the Michigan High School Athletic Association; but if you have more, please add them ASAP.
Title: Re: 2011 National Federation Football Rules Questionnaire
Post by: Atlanta Blue on December 05, 2011, 10:48:28 AM
"It's too bad they wouldn't let us add comments. Apparently the don't want any additional suggestion"...

This is why I started the "Let's Fix It" thread for NFHS rules.  I'm consolidating everything  the Refstripes member have sent in and will send them to the Michigan High School Athletic Association; but if you have more, please add them ASAP.

Suggested changes for next year were due by October 31.  The vote is in January, and they need to be prepped, and sent to all of the committee weeks before the meeting.  No new proposed changes are offered at the meeting, only those that were sent out to the committee in December.

If you are sending in changes to the MHSAA now, they would be for 2013.
Title: Re: 2011 National Federation Football Rules Questionnaire
Post by: Curious on December 05, 2011, 02:18:52 PM
Suggested changes for next year were due by October 31.  The vote is in January, and they need to be prepped, and sent to all of the committee weeks before the meeting.  No new proposed changes are offered at the meeting, only those that were sent out to the committee in December.

If you are sending in changes to the MHSAA now, they would be for 2013.

Thanks for the heads-up AB.  Nice to know.  Maybe we'll get some more good suggestions before the 2012 season.

Title: Re: 2011 National Federation Football Rules Questionnaire
Post by: bossman72 on January 25, 2012, 09:29:32 AM
I saw this thread too late.  Does anyone have the questions that were on the survey?  I just wanted to see what was on the table for this year.