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Football Officiating => Texas Topics => Topic started by: Coby on December 10, 2011, 09:56:16 AM

Title: 41 penalties in a state semi final game
Post by: Coby on December 10, 2011, 09:56:16 AM
http://www.chron.com/sports/highschool/article/Dawson-loses-shot-at-state-final-in-blowout-to-2393711.php

I have 2027 in the pool as the next time Lake Travis or Dawson uses the Dallas Chapter again.  Sensitive Dallas officials:  Dont read this as I dont believe there were 41 penalties, read it as Lake Travis and Dawson will remember this and blame you for it.... for a long long long time.
Title: Re: 41 penalties in a state semi final game
Post by: Hank on December 10, 2011, 11:15:24 AM
I'll take 3011.  That way, everyone connected with Dawson or Lake Travis in 2011 will most likely be dead.
Title: Re: 41 penalties in a state semi final game
Post by: DallasLJ on December 10, 2011, 11:33:18 AM
http://www.chron.com/sports/highschool/article/Dawson-loses-shot-at-state-final-in-blowout-to-2393711.php

I have 2027 in the pool as the next time Lake Travis or Dawson uses the Dallas Chapter again.  Sensitive Dallas officials:  Dont read this as I dont believe there were 41 penalties, read it as Lake Travis and Dawson will remember this and blame you for it.... for a long long long time.

   As I understand, they were requested by the schools and not assigned by the Chapter.
Title: Re: 41 penalties in a state semi final game
Post by: Arbitrator on December 10, 2011, 12:16:12 PM
 ^flag

I could very well imagine that this might be the very last time that either of those schools would ever place a call again to  :bOW tiphat: Manor Road  :!#  to request UIL assigned officials!  z^
Title: Re: 41 penalties in a state semi final game
Post by: yogi on December 10, 2011, 03:19:23 PM
What makes it worse is that I understand the same crew may have had the Manvel game today and it was just as bad.  Game ended and was won on a field goal during an untimed down after a helmet to helmet contact call by the referee.
Title: Re: 41 penalties in a state semi final game
Post by: Joe Stack on December 10, 2011, 06:01:19 PM
It wasn't the same crew.

I know all the guys on the crew. They are very experienced and aren't flag happy as a rule. If they threw 41 flags, they felt like there were 41 fouls. If it had an effect on the game, that's the teams' responsibilities. It sounds like the game was a disaster and the losing coach is just looking to blame someone else for the loss.
Title: Re: 41 penalties in a state semi final game
Post by: yogi on December 10, 2011, 08:12:20 PM
I stand corrected!!!
Title: Re: 41 penalties in a state semi final game
Post by: blindref757 on December 10, 2011, 08:33:47 PM
Kudos to the crew from Houston that worked the 3A Division 1 game in Arlington.  Only 1 flag in the 1st half and about 5 total.  They did a super job and let the kids play.  Mechanically they were sharp, the L made a great OOB call in the ez on a fade route, and they were nearly invisible.  Exactly what you want from a state final crew...and no UIL hats! :thumbup
Title: Re: 41 penalties in a state semi final game
Post by: texref on December 11, 2011, 12:03:04 PM
Half of the fouls were deadball LOS fouls. Dawson accused LT of mimicking the snap count all game. LT is very aggressive with their shifting of the Defense prior to the snap. Apparently there were a number of deadball PF fouls on Dawson as well.
Title: Re: 41 penalties in a state semi final game
Post by: 110 on December 11, 2011, 01:59:29 PM
Half of the fouls were deadball LOS fouls. Dawson accused LT of mimicking the snap count all game. LT is very aggressive with their shifting of the Defense prior to the snap. Apparently there were a number of deadball PF fouls on Dawson as well.

A good ump will detect mimicked snap counts. I've only seen it done three times in 15 years.

41 penalties is rather hefty. Then again, I worked deep in a game where we had 27, photo lensand it was the best game I worked all season - we did our job, but the kids didn't wanna play football. (I think we had seven UR {PF) fouls and a half-dozen OC {Unsportsmanlike} for various stupid things, including words I can't print in the newspaper.)

But I'd like to see what those 41 fouls were, and see the game, before passing judgment good or ill on the crew.