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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: craigyok on August 16, 2012, 08:53:47 AM
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I know in the college and NFL, whenever a player of A steps out of bounds during a play, you mark the spot where he reenters with your hat. Is there such a thing NFHS?
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If he's forced out, he's allowed to return at the first opportunity, so there's no need to mark where he re-enters.
Technically, if he steps out voluntarily (which should really read "untouched by B", but whatever), we mark the spot where he returns with a flag.
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'dropping the cap' is not an NFHS mechanic.
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There is no federation mechanic. However many associations, mine included, do mark the spot where the player went out of bounds, not where he came back in.
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Technically, if he steps out voluntarily (which should really read "untouched by B", but whatever), we mark the spot where he returns with a flag.
It's worse than that: the rule says "intentionally"!
In Ohio, we use our cap for this. It's in the Gold Book!
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I've never understood this. The foul occurs when he reenters & participates. Why mark where he (intentionally/voluntarily/untouched by B) stepped out?
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I've never understood this. The foul occurs when he reenters & participates. Why mark where he (intentionally/voluntarily/untouched by B) stepped out?
This is an unusual (and harsh — 15 yard penalty) call, and I think the hat is somewhat about perception. Most players commit this foul by stepping out of bounds and re-entering instantly, so the hat also marks the spot of re-entering. But it also tells everyone that the official saw the foul and is not making it up post hoc.
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Most players commit this foul by stepping out of bounds and re-entering instantly, so the hat also marks the spot of re-entering.
I'd just as soon have a flag down. It can be waved off if the player doesn't participate.
At my age, and with my hairline, I look for any excuse to keep my hat on! tiphat:
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I'd just as soon have a flag down. It can be waved off if the player doesn't participate.
The problem with that is you don't have a "flaggable offense" just because he steps out. Not just yet, anyway.
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The problem with that is you don't have a "flaggable offense" just because he steps out. Not just yet, anyway.
Which is why I pointed out that it could be waved off.
We do the same thing if there's DPI downfield, but the ball was tipped at the LOS.
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Which is why I pointed out that it could be waved off.
We do the same thing if there's DPI downfield, but the ball was tipped at the LOS.
You are correct in that downfield DPI is a flag but there is a caveat if the pass is tipped at the line - all bets being off. However, it is not a foul for merely stepping off the field and there is no reason to throw a flag until specific acts (return and participate) occurs at a future point in time. Your comparison is apples and oranges.