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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: TXMike on September 24, 2012, 04:37:51 PM

Title: Hat Mechanics - Would there ever be a reason...
Post by: TXMike on September 24, 2012, 04:37:51 PM
To throw your hat INTO the end zone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34WzAWqI_SM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34WzAWqI_SM)
Title: Re: Hat Mechanics - Would there ever be a reason...
Post by: dvasques on September 24, 2012, 05:51:43 PM
I was wondering that at the time...
Another player stepped out of the back of the endzone and that's why the hat. But why in the field of play or the endzone?
Title: Re: Hat Mechanics - Would there ever be a reason...
Post by: Rulesman on September 24, 2012, 07:09:57 PM
Seems to me like a bean bag could accomplish the same thing. I've never understood the thinking behind dropping a hat.
Title: Re: Hat Mechanics - Would there ever be a reason...
Post by: El Macman on September 24, 2012, 07:34:46 PM
Seems to me like a bean bag could accomplish the same thing. I've never understood the thinking behind dropping a hat.

The hat clearly distiguishes a player stepping OB, as opposed to a fumble or backward pass. That's it.
Title: Re: Hat Mechanics - Would there ever be a reason...
Post by: cincybearcat on September 24, 2012, 09:20:33 PM
I've never seen anyone throw their hat into the field of play...they always teach us you don't even need to "throw" the hat...you can just drop it...the spot istn't important...
Title: Re: Hat Mechanics - Would there ever be a reason...
Post by: Tieron on September 24, 2012, 11:47:49 PM
yeah ...that's probably the first time i've seen a hat being thrown inside the field...let alone the endzone...  ^no
Title: Re: Hat Mechanics - Would there ever be a reason...
Post by: TampaSteve on September 27, 2012, 12:21:17 PM
Yeah, I saw this (obviously, look @ my name).  Scratched my head why the hat was tossed on to the field.
Title: Re: Hat Mechanics - Would there ever be a reason...
Post by: 110 on September 27, 2012, 01:11:02 PM
The hat was tossed into the field of play because the replacement ref believed the puck had been tipped out of the field of play.
Title: Re: Hat Mechanics - Would there ever be a reason...
Post by: Osric Pureheart on September 27, 2012, 01:19:01 PM
If only officials carried some small, unobtrusive, yet visible item that could be dropped instead of a hat!
Title: Re: Hat Mechanics - Would there ever be a reason...
Post by: 110 on September 27, 2012, 01:28:25 PM
If only officials carried some small, unobtrusive, yet visible item that could be dropped instead of a hat!

I use a beanbag for secondary fouls, if I have 'em. Rare event. Don't like the "striptease" of throwing clothing items into the muck ...
Title: Re: Hat Mechanics - Would there ever be a reason...
Post by: Morningrise on September 27, 2012, 01:54:02 PM
I've never approved of the hat mechanic. It's part of the uniform, not a piece of equipment. Indicating information by tossing/dropping an item is exactly the reason (among others) why beanbags were invented. I don't agree that using a different item, for distinguishing between receivers OOB and other events, is needed. Beanbags already carry numerous meanings, and coaches/fans/film understand this. But in truth, we needn't drop anything at all. The spot is never relevant. A mere hand signal would suffice. That's what we do when a pass is tipped, for instance. The "pass touched" hand signal indicates that an event has changed which rules apply. Likewise, a "receiver OOB" hand signal would accomplish the same thing.
Title: Re: Hat Mechanics - Would there ever be a reason...
Post by: Welpe on September 27, 2012, 01:59:04 PM
I use a beanbag for secondary fouls, if I have 'em. Rare event. Don't like the "striptease" of throwing clothing items into the muck ...

I use a back pocket flag though that's not approved everywhere.