RefStripes.com

Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: Welpe on October 09, 2012, 02:29:13 PM

Title: Illegal Shift?
Post by: Welpe on October 09, 2012, 02:29:13 PM

What say you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKNlUnM0fAI

Title: Re: Illegal Shift?
Post by: centexsports on October 09, 2012, 02:58:20 PM

Wasn't this changed to a shutdown at the snap last year?   

At the very least, 5 yards from previous spot and replay.

Title: Re: Illegal Shift?
Post by: TxSkyBolt on October 09, 2012, 03:15:58 PM

FST

Title: Re: Illegal Shift?
Post by: SouthGARef on October 09, 2012, 03:23:05 PM

I thought this would just be a normal illegal shift and not an "illegal shift converting to a false start" since Team A came completely set before the shift?

Title: Re: Illegal Shift?
Post by: Welpe on October 09, 2012, 03:39:59 PM

Quote from: SouthGARef on October 09, 2012, 03:23:05 PM

I thought this would just be a normal illegal shift and not an "illegal shift converting to a false start" since Team A came completely set before the shift?

That's how I'm seeing it. Live ball illegal shift because all Team A members did originally come set.

Title: Re: Illegal Shift?
Post by: SD_Casey on October 10, 2012, 08:43:30 AM

Just a rookie but I am starting my NCAA rules study so hopefully I don't embarrass myself...

I see Illegal shift.  QB and RB shift and do not get set for a full second (7-1-2-a).  QB is still moving his feet and arms at the snap.

Illegal shift.

Title: Re: Illegal Shift?
Post by: maven on October 10, 2012, 08:47:33 AM

Quote from: SD_Casey on October 10, 2012, 08:43:30 AM

Just a rookie but I am starting my NCAA rules study so hopefully I don't embarrass myself...

I see Illegal shift.  QB and RB shift and do not get set for a full second (7-1-2-a).  QB is still moving his feet and arms at the snap.

Illegal shift.

That's right, and seems to be consensus here.

The conversation turned quickly to the new NCAA rule that shuts down the play as a dead-ball false start in some illegal shift situations. Those are situations in which A NEVER sets, but simply comes up to the ball and snaps it.

This situation is not like that: A sets, then shifts, and does not come set again. It would be (should have been) properly flagged as a live-ball illegal shift.