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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: ck4597 on October 18, 2012, 11:19:46 AM

Title: what's wrong with this???
Post by: ck4597 on October 18, 2012, 11:19:46 AM
2 things wrong here...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9XbtUOn-Hg


Title: Re: what's wrong with this???
Post by: tow on October 18, 2012, 11:24:34 AM
I found 1,holder didn't rise knee off ground prior to pass,ball dead!
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Post by: Ump33 on October 18, 2012, 12:00:25 PM
Looks like the PAT pass was caught by #78 or #79
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Post by: maven on October 18, 2012, 12:01:57 PM
Right. And it looks as if the receiver is wearing an ineligible number (78 or 79?).
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Post by: Curious on October 18, 2012, 12:06:49 PM
If you consider the "U" signalling TD "wrong", that's all I saw beyond the obvious pitch by the holder from his knee.

This (the play) should be called "The Lowlight of the Evening"!!!!!
Title: Re: what's wrong with this???
Post by: Atlanta Blue on October 18, 2012, 12:15:11 PM
I can't tell on the film, but it I thought that #18 caught the pass on the try.  If it was 78, obviously, it's illegal.  And yes, the holder never lifted his knee, ball dead when he throws it, so it really doesn't matter WHO caught it.

But look at the TD play that came before that.  Count the linemen. (Never mind, I couldn't see them until the slow mo.  There are seven.  There MIGHT have been a substitution issue before this, but we don't see when the sub came in).

Major screwups at the end of this game.  Probably an issue of the crew getting caught up in the excitement of the moment as much as the players and the fans, and losing their concentration.
Title: Re: what's wrong with this???
Post by: bama_stripes on October 18, 2012, 12:29:54 PM
Looks like #18 from the frame-by-frame view.

AB, I have no problem with the alignment on the TD play.
Title: Re: what's wrong with this???
Post by: Atlanta Blue on October 18, 2012, 12:40:37 PM
Looks like #18 from the frame-by-frame view.

AB, I have no problem with the alignment on the TD play.

I don't either, now.  When I saw it the first time, one of the players was hidden, and I thought there were only 6 on the line.

I still don't like the 12th man on the field when the film starts, but we don't know if his sub came in 1 second ago or 10 seconds ago, so without more evidence, we let this one go.
Title: Re: what's wrong with this???
Post by: bossman72 on October 18, 2012, 01:23:25 PM
I don't either, now.  When I saw it the first time, one of the players was hidden, and I thought there were only 6 on the line.

I still don't like the 12th man on the field when the film starts, but we don't know if his sub came in 1 second ago or 10 seconds ago, so without more evidence, we let this one go.

It was probably a foul.  We see 2 seconds of video before the sub starts to run.  The formation was out there long before that and he was in the formation.  I'm willing to bet this was a foul.
Title: Re: what's wrong with this???
Post by: bama_stripes on October 18, 2012, 04:28:27 PM
I still don't like the 12th man on the field when the film starts, but we don't know if his sub came in 1 second ago or 10 seconds ago, so without more evidence, we let this one go.

Looks like one of his teammates is motioning / yelling for him to get off.  If that's indeed the case, I'm OK with that.
Title: Re: what's wrong with this???
Post by: Tom.OH on October 21, 2012, 06:44:47 PM
What a great Hail Mary pass leading up to the (questionable) try.
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Post by: TampaSteve on October 22, 2012, 08:03:13 AM
Where was this game?
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Post by: waltjp on October 22, 2012, 08:13:13 AM
According to their roster, #19 is a OL/DL who is 6'5", 265 lbs.  The roster also shows nobody listed as #79.
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Post by: waltjp on October 22, 2012, 08:13:40 AM
Where was this game?

Virginia
Title: Re: what's wrong with this???
Post by: Ump33 on October 22, 2012, 11:30:09 AM
Looks like the PAT pass was caught by #78 or #79

I checked online stats for the game and the PAT score is credited to #19.