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National Federation Discussion / Re: New Force
« Last post by BIG UMP on April 20, 2018, 10:33:54 AM »
I can live with the rule but I don't believe we should award R a TB.  B should blow it dead and it be declared dead at the 6.

By rule no, but fair yes.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: New Force
« Last post by AlUpstateNY on April 20, 2018, 09:45:11 AM »
IMHO, there are two points of discussion here :

WHEN DOES THE KICK AT REST BECOME DEAD?.....If no one is making a play for it, it should become dead. IF the game was being played on an extremely muddy field and the kick didn't bounce but plopped in the mud with a receiver approaching it, I'd keep it alive - as in the case.

Seem perfectly logical, according to NFHS rules, a kick is a kick until it stops being a kick "ends", which is defined explicitly in NFHS 2-24-2.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: New Force
« Last post by Ralph Damren on April 20, 2018, 07:40:41 AM »
IMHO, there are two points of discussion here :

WHEN CAN A MUFF ADD A NEW FORCE TO A KICK?....If R muffs a grounded kick back into K's end zone. K's kick is blocked @ K's 10, in trying to scoop up the kick bouncing away from K's EZ and muffs it back toward and into pylon = new force, TB, K @20-new series.

WHEN DOES THE KICK AT REST BECOME DEAD?.....If no one is making a play for it, it should become dead. IF the game was being played on an extremely muddy field and the kick didn't bounce but plopped in the mud with a receiver approaching it, I'd keep it alive - as in the case.

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National Federation Discussion / Re: KO Penalty - Referee Mag
« Last post by bama_stripes on April 20, 2018, 06:19:44 AM »
It never ceases to amaze me.  Referee Magazine is published only once per month, yet they consistently have to make a correction on at least one of their quizzes every month.

Can't they assign someone to fact-check these quizzes in a 30-day period?
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National Federation Discussion / Re: KO Penalty - Referee Mag
« Last post by ChicagoZebra on April 19, 2018, 09:37:09 PM »
That is definitely wrong. Should be the 20 yard line. Someone confuse NFHS and NCAA?
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National Federation Discussion / Re: KO Penalty - Referee Mag
« Last post by GA Umpire on April 19, 2018, 07:44:24 PM »
Am I missing something?  Article in May 2018 Referee magazine, p. 67 talking about tack on penalty.

I'm quoting:
Situation:
Team K's free kick from its 40 hardline goes out of bounds untouched after breaking the plane of team R's goalline.

Ruling:
Because the result of the play was a touchback, the ball would next be snapped from team R's 25 yardline.

I ask again what am I missing.  Free kick, breaks plane of goalline, touchback.  No foul or tack-on right?

I agree.  I had the same question when I read the ruling.
How can you have a penalty on a kick going into the end zone?   6-1-9
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National Federation Discussion / KO Penalty - Referee Mag
« Last post by Jackhammer on April 19, 2018, 07:22:28 PM »
Am I missing something?  Article in May 2018 Referee magazine, p. 67 talking about tack on penalty.

I'm quoting:
Situation:
Team K's free kick from its 40 yardline goes out of bounds untouched after breaking the plane of team R's goalline.

Ruling:
Because the result of the play was a touchback, the ball would next be snapped from team R's 25 yardline.

I ask again what am I missing.  Free kick, breaks plane of goalline, touchback.  No foul or tack-on right? 
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National Federation Discussion / Re: New Force
« Last post by AlUpstateNY on April 19, 2018, 07:01:23 PM »
2-13-4 . . . Force is not a factor:
a. On kicks going into Rís end zone, since these kicks are always a touchback regardless of who supplied the force.

It has long seemed, one of the simplest, yet most significant, confusing, problem generating and most important aspects of "a kick", as relates to the game of football, is that of the bazillion things that we've all seen happen to kicks, ONLY TWO can actually cause a kick to end (no longer be subject to the rules related to "kicks"). 

NFHS: 2-24-2:  "a kick ends when a player gains possession or when the ball becomes dead while not in player possession.".
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Texas Topics / Re: TASO Shirts
« Last post by Welpe on April 19, 2018, 06:52:54 PM »
I ordered some Honig's shirts from Stripes Plus. Much to my surprise, the ones without plackets drop shipped directly from Honig's in CO. If you're wanting Honig's shirts, Stripes Plus is the way to go.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: New Force
« Last post by Ump33 on April 19, 2018, 06:27:30 PM »
2-13-4 . . . Force is not a factor:
a. On kicks going into Rís end zone, since these kicks are always a touchback regardless of who supplied the force.
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