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National Football League / Re: Minneapolis Game.
« Last post by bossman72 on January 16, 2018, 11:36:57 AM »
One of the more asinine NFL rules.  It's probably just something archaic that they've never bothered to fix.  But it causes more problems than it solves.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Rules as seen on TV
« Last post by bossman72 on January 16, 2018, 11:30:40 AM »
Here are some changes I have in the arsenal that I need to submit to my state office next year.  Some are more important than others.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzA-T4I9Rwu4WEdnYUp1TkFHNFU
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National Federation Discussion / Rules as seen on TV
« Last post by ncwingman on January 16, 2018, 11:13:11 AM »
With the stipulation that I am not part of any sort of rule committee and that whatever said here will never be taken seriously by anyone... what NCAA/NFL rules would you actually like to see incorporated into Fed rules?

We've all seen and lamented changes that happened just because the big boys do it, but which rules do you think would actually help?

One caveat -- the "help" must affect the actual game, not just to prevent assistant coaches from yelling absurd things like "He was out of the tackle box!" by making it a legitimate claim. Granted, I think that allowing the QB to throw the ball away would be a useful addition to prevent taking a hit (either that or actually enforce IG when he throws the ball into the 6th row or 50 feet in the air, even if it came within a quarter mile of an eligible receiver)
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General Discussion / Re: Measurement Mechanics
« Last post by ElvisLives on January 16, 2018, 10:44:25 AM »
I meant that I'm in the offensive side of the ball but so that the chain side of the ball is free (ie. basically only my arm is behind the ball, rest of my body is to the side, but still in the offensive backfield). Your BJ probably positioned the same way except to the chain side, so the side where the measurement is done stays free.

I suspect we are very much on the same page.  The goal is to give the press box/TV and the Referee a clear and unobstructed view of the ball and the front stake, as the front stake is pulled to the nose of the ball.  Preferably, the stake/chains would be placed alongside the ball on the press box side, and the B is holding the ball on the opposite side of the ball, on the offensive end of the ball, and at some angle toward the sideline, to keep the area around the ball as clear as possible.  That was precisely how it was done in the Steelers-Jaguars game.

Robert


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National Football League / Re: Super Bowl LII
« Last post by Ralph Damren on January 16, 2018, 10:20:15 AM »
As I study the active polling results, I notice that there is yet to be a ballot casted for the Jags being the Super Bowl champ.

I then ponder if that means the electorate may feel that the Jags will :

(1) Lose in the Super Bowl;

(2) not make it to the Super Bowl.

 aWaRd
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General Discussion / Re: Measurement Mechanics
« Last post by Ralph Damren on January 16, 2018, 10:10:25 AM »
My two - no three cents w/inflation - worth.....

Wings should run to ball when close. Ball should be spotted on their foot , never eyeballed from afar.

If play ended in side zone, bring chains to ball, not ball to hash. If short, walk both chains and ball back to hash.

I invite both captains ,by name, to join me in watching the measurement : "Capt. Bubba, Capt. Tugboat, you guys want to join me on this?"

Have DMG (downs-marker guy -gender neutral) move to location of lead pole before chains come out. Chains can now return to downs-marker, if short, then move DMG off lead pole as necessary.

If the runner ended up holding the ball at an angle, I place my hat at the foremost tip then rotate ball before measurement.

There are several "chain tricks" that can be used with penalty enforcement to determine if a new series will occur .

Of all the gripes I've heard from coaches over the years, the most common one is : "...We got some really bad spots  >:( !!"

IMHO, the few minutes of game time added to ensure we did our best is well worth it.
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National Football League / Re: Minneapolis Game.
« Last post by Ralph Damren on January 16, 2018, 09:44:06 AM »
Yup, net points scored is still a tie-breaker, so it can have an effect during the regular season.
As my murky memory recalls...
 (1) Pats vs divisional opponent ;
 (2) Pats down by a few with less that a few sec. left;
 (3) Brady tosses a Hail Mary from mid-field;
 (4) ball falls harmlessly in EZ;
 (5)  z^^flag for DPI = 1st & goal;
 (6) Pats score TD with clock @ 0:00;
 (7)  >:( >:( opponents refuse to play on PAT;
 (8) kick-holder strolls in for 2 - Pats win by 5;
 (9) later in the season the same team beats Pats by 4;
 (10) teams are tied in standings > head-on results > split > total points in head-on games > Pats by 1;

IF the opponents had bothered to show up for PAT;
IF the Pats kicked;
IF the total pts. in head-on games were tied.....

I assume out would come the two-headed coin >:D >:D

 tiphat:
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General Discussion / Re: Measurement Mechanics
« Last post by Kalle on January 16, 2018, 08:22:08 AM »
Kalle, thatís better than having the B on the defensive end of the ball, for sure.

I meant that I'm in the offensive side of the ball but so that the chain side of the ball is free (ie. basically only my arm is behind the ball, rest of my body is to the side, but still in the offensive backfield). Your BJ probably positioned the same way except to the chain side, so the side where the measurement is done stays free.
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National Football League / Re: Minneapolis Game.
« Last post by Kalle on January 16, 2018, 07:57:02 AM »
Yup, net points scored is still a tie-breaker, so it can have an effect during the regular season.
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National Football League / Re: Minneapolis Game.
« Last post by Ralph Damren on January 16, 2018, 07:40:07 AM »
At one time, I believe, point spreads were included somewhere as a secondary tie-breaker for post-season seating purposes in the NFL. This would certainly make it understandable in regular season.
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