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National Federation Discussion / Re: Is the thumb a finger ??? (T/F)
« Last post by Ralph Damren on April 17, 2018, 09:36:50 AM »
Once again, Mom was spot on, "An idle mind is the devil's workshop".
:) We now know how those 24/7 sports channels feel (NFL, MLB, etc) during their off-seasons  :) !!!

Some sayings my dad shared in my daze of youth.....

"Sports is the tonic that washes away the perils of life."

"You need to hit a lot of home runs before they'll call you a slugger;
You need to score a lot of touchdowns before they'll call you Mr. Touchdown;
BUT you need to rob only one bank before they'll call you a bank robber."

"You'll feel sorry that you have no shoes until you meet a man who has no feet."

"You need only to add a 'h' and take out a 'n' and winner turns into whiner ,when you have a pity party NO one will come."

"The thing about excuses is that only losers need to use them"

.....these may have formed the foundation of my demented mind  :o 8] ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'( >:D

FOOTBALL WILL BE HERE SOON,GUYS tR:oLl
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Here We Go....
« Last post by Ralph Damren on April 17, 2018, 09:06:11 AM »
I kinda like the point to center-ice (for confirmed or stands).  And then the "no good" signal, followed by a one-fingered salute toward the calling official for no-score.   ;D

Just Monday morning humor (although I do LOVEs me some hockey, especially the Stanley Cup playoffs - go Pens!).
Ice hockey is the only sport that my wife enjoys watching ,so it is a favorite of mine ,too . IMHO, Sidney Crosby is today's Gretsky and wish the Penguins success over the Flyers. Our NEW ENGLAND Bruins (along with the Celtics) have our hearts now - once eliminated they will return to Those Boston Bruins ! Enjoy the Pen's push for Lord Stanley's Cup. :)
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There is no question that Rose is not exactly a high quality person, but he was great ballplayer, which should be the only qualification for the HOF
IMHO, for Pete to be selected for the HOF, Shoeless Joe Jackson would also need to be inducted. His stats were well equal to Rose's for his short career.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: more baffling questions
« Last post by ElvisLives on April 17, 2018, 07:26:39 AM »
Kalle,
Yes.  Like I noted, a ball that passes over a pylon is pretty well guaranteed to have broken the plane of the goal line (between the sidelines).  But, if we can clearly see the ball cross over the sideline without passing over the pylon, and the BC is airborne, that wonít score a TD, even if the ball is beyond the goal line extended when it becomes dead, because the goal line does not extend beyond the sidelines for airborne BCs.

Honestly, in the purest sense of the rules as they are written, the AR is in conflict with the rules.  Since the pylon is totally outside the sideline, a ball that passes ONLY over the pylon, with no part passing through the plane of the goal line - which stops at the inner edge of the pylon for an airborne BC - technically, should NOT be a TD.  But, the simple size of a football, as compared to a pylon, pretty well assures us that a ball that passes over a pylon most likely also passed through the plane of the goal line.  And it is going to be very hard to tell if the ball passed ONLY over the pylon, without, technically, breaking the plane of the goal line.  If a BC can get the ball over the pylon, letís give him the TD.  And thatís what the AR says.

Robert
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NCAA Discussion / Re: more baffling questions
« Last post by Kalle on April 17, 2018, 01:50:20 AM »
However, an airborne BC gets credit for forward progress ONLY between the sidelines (the goal line is not extended beyond the sidelines for airborne BCs).  If the ball passes over the pylon - and no part of the ball penetrates the goal line (which stops at the sideline) as the BC "flies" OB, then forward progress is to the point where the ball passes over the sideline, i.e., just short of the goal line.

Isn't this the same play as in A.R. 8-2-1-II, where the ruling is a TD?
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Here We Go....
« Last post by ncwingman on April 16, 2018, 09:48:01 PM »
I kinda like the point to center-ice (for confirmed or stands).  And then the "no good" signal, followed by a one-fingered salute toward the calling official for no-score.   ;D

Just Monday morning humor (although I do LOVEs me some hockey, especially the Stanley Cup playoffs - go Pens!).

Now I want to be a white hat and a have a microphone to become the high school football version of
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Texas Topics / Re: TASO Shirts
« Last post by DallasLJ on April 16, 2018, 05:33:48 PM »
Honigs is no longer authorized? What gives?
  Honig's closed in Texas.  And really has not been the same since Dick Honig sold the company.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: more baffling questions
« Last post by ElvisLives on April 16, 2018, 05:17:52 PM »
Correct, the pylon is in the end zone. So, in your list, #4 is actually a subset of #2 (although it makes the end zone a non-rectangle).

ChicagoZebra, that is not quite correct.  All pylons are out of bounds - not in the end zone.  Because their front faces align with the goal line, the goal line pylons are out of bounds BEHIND THE GOAL LINE, which means that a ball that touches a goal line pylon is OB behind the goal line.  If this is an attacking player, then that yields a TD.

A non-airborne BC that manages to extend the ball to, or beyond, the goal line (including touching the pylon with the ball), either above the playing field or over the ground outside the sideline (the goal line extends beyond the sideline for non-airborne BCs), AND touch a pylon or the ground in the end zone with any part of his body (before touching the ground OB) is credited with a TD.

However, an airborne BC gets credit for forward progress ONLY between the sidelines (the goal line is not extended beyond the sidelines for airborne BCs).  If the ball passes over the pylon - and no part of the ball penetrates the goal line (which stops at the sideline) as the BC "flies" OB, then forward progress is to the point where the ball passes over the sideline, i.e., just short of the goal line.  Technically, a truly airborne BC that touches the front face of the pylon (or the air space directly over the pylon) with the ball - and no part of the ball penetrates the goal line, which, again stops at the sideline, would not score a TD.  Progress would be given to the point where the ball crossed the sideline, i.e., just short of the goal line.

In reality, though, when an airborne BC reaches for, and touches, the pylon with the ball, he is almost always guaranteed to have had some part of the ball penetrate the plane of the goal line, thus, TD.  Same if he manages to get the ball to pass over the pylon.  The size of the football almost always assures the BC that some part of the ball penetrated the goal line as it was passing over the pylon.  TD.

Robert 
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General Discussion / Re: Taxes and Football!
« Last post by ChicagoZebra on April 16, 2018, 04:23:25 PM »
You only make $1500 a year doing this? Man, y'all are underpaid in Chicago bro.I make $1500 just with my HS JV schedule. $85 per game makes it only about 17-18 games to hit that mark. With 4 or 5 double headers thats about 10-15 dates. Then I add about 120, 130 for varsity games times 14 is another $1700. I feel bad for you, my friend.

Where do you work? That is indeed much more than we get here. But, as we always say, it is not about the money.  :sTiR:

Varsity around here pays about $75. JV around $55. I only work Friday/Saturdays to keep my home life sane so limited to about 2 games per week (and there are not that many varsity games on Saturdays). Regular season is only 9 weeks long.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: more baffling questions
« Last post by ChicagoZebra on April 16, 2018, 03:53:47 PM »
Although the pylons lie outside the sidelines, my understanding was that the 4" x 4" column of air above the pylon is like the pylon itself: If you can put the ball there, you have a touchdown.

I'm pretty sure you get a touchdown if you can put the possessed ball in any of these places:

1. Anywhere beyond the infinite goal line, if your body is touching the end zone ground or the pylon. (Note that touching the pylon ends the down one way or the other)
2. Above the rectangle of the end zone
3. Touching the pylon, even the side of the pylon that's four inches out of bounds

and I had thought this was also one:

4? Above the pylon

Correct, the pylon is in the end zone. So, in your list, #4 is actually a subset of #2 (although it makes the end zone a non-rectangle).
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