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National Football League / Re: Minneapolis Game.
« Last post by Ralph Damren on January 16, 2018, 09:44:06 AM »
Yup, net points scored is still a tie-breaker, so it can have an effect during the regular season.
As my murky memory recalls...
 (1) Pats vs divisional opponent ;
 (2) Pats down by a few with less that a few sec. left;
 (3) Brady tosses a Hail Mary from mid-field;
 (4) ball falls harmlessly in EZ;
 (5)  z^^flag for DPI = 1st & goal;
 (6) Pats score TD with clock @ 0:00;
 (7)  >:( >:( opponents refuse to play on PAT;
 (8) kick-holder strolls in for 2 - Pats win by 5;
 (9) later in the season the same team beats Pats by 4;
 (10) teams are tied in standings > head-on results > split > total points in head-on games > Pats by 1;

IF the opponents had bothered to show up for PAT;
IF the Pats kicked;
IF the total pts. in head-on games were tied.....

I assume out would come the two-headed coin >:D >:D

 tiphat:
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General Discussion / Re: Measurement Mechanics
« Last post by Kalle on January 16, 2018, 08:22:08 AM »
Kalle, that’s better than having the B on the defensive end of the ball, for sure.

I meant that I'm in the offensive side of the ball but so that the chain side of the ball is free (ie. basically only my arm is behind the ball, rest of my body is to the side, but still in the offensive backfield). Your BJ probably positioned the same way except to the chain side, so the side where the measurement is done stays free.
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National Football League / Re: Minneapolis Game.
« Last post by Kalle on January 16, 2018, 07:57:02 AM »
Yup, net points scored is still a tie-breaker, so it can have an effect during the regular season.
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National Football League / Re: Minneapolis Game.
« Last post by Ralph Damren on January 16, 2018, 07:40:07 AM »
At one time, I believe, point spreads were included somewhere as a secondary tie-breaker for post-season seating purposes in the NFL. This would certainly make it understandable in regular season.
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National Football League / Re: Minneapolis Game.
« Last post by Kalle on January 16, 2018, 07:27:06 AM »
Could this have anything to do with why they force the try when there is no time on the clock...no matter what the score is?

This actually creates a potential conflict of interest situation. If team A goes for the PAT, the RB might intentionally muff the handoff with no effect on the game (OK, he might get some statistical downgrade), and potentially giving somebody a huge monetary advantage. Especially these days with instant betting (not sure if there is any on football, but in soccer there's huge money in eg. "which team gets the next throw-in" style betting) this sounds really bad.

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General Discussion / Re: Measurement Mechanics
« Last post by ElvisLives on January 16, 2018, 07:25:10 AM »
Kalle, that’s better than having the B on the defensive end of the ball, for sure.  But, it means the chains will be opposite the press box for the measurement.  The ‘preferred’ technique is to have the chains on the press box side for the measurement, which would put the B opposite the press box.  The U simply stands away from the ball (also on the offensive end of the ball) enough to take the forward stake from the chain crew as they get to the ball, then steps to the front of the ball on the press box side.  The L has marked a spot on the ground at the clip yard line, just on the press box side of the ball, for the H to set the clip.

Granted, whether the chains are on the press box side or opposite is mostly cosmetic.  On the the press box side is driven by TV, to give them a better (and more dramatic) view of the measurement.  But, with or without TV, having the B on the offensive end of the ball works best, functionally.

Robert
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National Football League / Re: Minneapolis Game.
« Last post by bama_stripes on January 16, 2018, 06:22:16 AM »
Could this have anything to do with why they force the try when there is no time on the clock...no matter what the score is?

As a now-deceased friend of mine was fond of saying:
"The answer is 'money'.  Now what's your question?"
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National Football League / Re: NFL Shields?
« Last post by Kalle on January 16, 2018, 06:21:48 AM »
They are legal in high school and college with a medical waiver.

No medical waiver possible in NCAA any more.

"Eye shields. Eye shields must be clear, not tinted, and made from molded or rigid material. Eyeglasses and goggles also must be clear and not tinted. No medical exceptions are allowed."
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National Football League / Re: NFL Shields?
« Last post by bama_stripes on January 16, 2018, 06:11:46 AM »
I don't know about NCAA, but they're illegal under NFHS, even with a note from your mother.
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General Discussion / Re: Measurement Mechanics
« Last post by Kalle on January 16, 2018, 01:14:52 AM »
I've done this for a few years now, and if you position yourself slightly to the press box side of the ball, you are not going to get in the way.
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