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NCAA Discussion / Re: more baffling questions
« Last post by Morningrise on April 16, 2018, 03:30:35 PM »
A 2/G @ B-7. Ball carrier A1, advancing in the field of play, becomes airborne @ B-2 and places the ball over the pylon while crossing the goal line extended and his first contact to the ground is out of bounds two yards beyond the goal line.
For an airborne player, forward progress is given to the point where the ball crossed the sideline.  For an airborne ball carrier, the ball must break the plane of the goal line between the sidelines, to be touchdown.  The goal line does not extend beyond the sidelines for airborne ball carriers.  (Pylons are outside the sidelines.) Assuming no part of the ball broke the plane of the goal line between the sidelines (when it passed over the pylon), the ball is out of bounds just short of the goal line (when A-1 lands OB).  A, 3/G, just outside the goal line.  Play clock (40), starts on official’s T/O signal.  Game clock starts when ball is spotted and R signals.
However, if some part of the ball broke the plane of the goal line between the sidelines, Touchdown.  A, try, B-3.  By 2017 rules, play clock (40), RFP (2018 rules may be different).  Game clock does not run.

Although the pylons lie outside the sidelines, my understanding was that the 4" x 4" column of air above the pylon is like the pylon itself: If you can put the ball there, you have a touchdown.

I'm pretty sure you get a touchdown if you can put the possessed ball in any of these places:

1. Anywhere beyond the infinite goal line, if your body is touching the end zone ground or the pylon. (Note that touching the pylon ends the down one way or the other)
2. Above the rectangle of the end zone
3. Touching the pylon, even the side of the pylon that's four inches out of bounds

and I had thought this was also one:

4? Above the pylon

National Federation Discussion / Re: And the TD pass is caught by...the snapper!
« Last post by riffraft on April 16, 2018, 02:54:52 PM »
Read the Dowd Report (including the attached exhibits), then get back to us.  He has never taken responsibility for his actions.

There is no question that Rose is not exactly a high quality person, but he was great ballplayer, which should be the only qualification for the HOF
General Discussion / Re: Taxes and Football!
« Last post by clearwall on April 16, 2018, 02:01:34 PM »
You should always be paying taxes regardless if you get a 1099 or not.  P_S

You can claim deductions for uniforms, association fees, test supplies, etc.

I would say don't bother with receipts. Honestly, the IRS is not going to audit your $1.5k/year side gig. That said, any side business that has a high proportion of expenses to income is suspicious in their eyes.

You only make $1500 a year doing this? Man, y'all are underpaid in Chicago bro.I make $1500 just with my HS JV schedule. $85 per game makes it only about 17-18 games to hit that mark. With 4 or 5 double headers thats about 10-15 dates. Then I add about 120, 130 for varsity games times 14 is another $1700. I feel bad for you, my friend.
General Discussion / Re: Be half-full, not half-empty.....
« Last post by clearwall on April 16, 2018, 01:57:10 PM »
I grew up in Tornado Alley(Tx Panhandle). Tornadoes are not that big a deal, really. They usually are way out in the boonies because pressure systems tend to push them away from the cities. That really limits the damage. And even when they hit where you are, they're pretty easy to get cover from. Rarely are tornadoes big enough to actually damage permanent structures. As long as you can get to where there's brick and mortar and stay away from debris, you're usually fine
NCAA Discussion / Re: more baffling questions
« Last post by Navcom on April 16, 2018, 12:06:59 PM »
sorry for the confusion. yes, I'm making the attempt to move from HS to College. Its been challenging since we still run, 4 man mechanics at the varsity level. yes i know, WTF!!!    we are trying to get 5th man. budget is weak.   
NCAA Discussion / Re: need help answering 3 questions
« Last post by Navcom on April 16, 2018, 12:03:57 PM »
I like that idea. its tangible. thank you
Texas Topics / Re: TASO Shirts
« Last post by clearwall on April 16, 2018, 10:53:43 AM »
Honigs is no longer authorized? What gives?
National Federation Discussion / Re: Moving to umpire
« Last post by Ralph Damren on April 16, 2018, 10:49:10 AM »
The most important ingredient of becoming an umpire is SAFETY - yours!!

At the high school level most of the kids will try to avoid you, not necessarily true at above  yEs: yEs: pi1eOn yEs: yEs: (5-man crew).

I umpired for several years before becoming a white hat and felt it was a promotion from the wings but took my share of lumps. On a sweep you usually have plenty of time to react if the ball carrier is coming your way ,but not so as an umpire  sNiCkErS  :o . In learning to read the plays, I found that reacting to the guards worked best.

(1) If the guard drives the defender toward you = git outta' town, the play is coming your way - backtrack and watch for illegal blocks.

(2) If the guard pulls = a sweep is developing watch the pulling guard for blocking below the waist and holding, as he is key to the play.

(3) If the guard retreats = this is probably a pass play, move to LOS as you have plenty of pass play duties BUT stay alert for possible draw.

While these keys may help, you probably will still get run over...just not as much :P . With 22 kids all running towards you, be ready. You'll enjoy your future move to referee even more, where those same 22 kids are running away from you!
National Federation Discussion / Re: Here We Go....
« Last post by Ralph Damren on April 16, 2018, 10:25:19 AM »
Minnesota used instant replay in their semifinal & championship games as an experimental rule. There was very little support for it at the Rules Committee meeting. If there are any on the forum from Minnesota, they may be able to fill us in.
National Federation Discussion / Re: Here We Go....
« Last post by ElvisLives on April 16, 2018, 09:33:20 AM »
In keeping with the post below, how about a thumb (finger) up for call stands, down for call reversed?
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I kinda like the point to center-ice (for confirmed or stands).  And then the "no good" signal, followed by a one-fingered salute toward the calling official for no-score.   ;D

Just Monday morning humor (although I do LOVEs me some hockey, especially the Stanley Cup playoffs - go Pens!).
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