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NCAA Discussion / Re: FC of Free Kick
« Last post by ElvisLives on May 28, 2018, 04:12:13 PM »
Anyone heard any guidance on this.

A81 signals for FC of a Free Kick but A22 is who actually makes the catch at the A-18. Is the ball still placed at the A-25?

Just saw a video of Steve Shaw's presentation of rule changes at the CFO Replay Clinic.  He very clearly indicated that they would issue an interpretation indicating that a catch of a free kick, inside the B-25, following ANY TYPE OF SIGNAL (valid or invalid) would qualify for placement at the B-25.  Yes, a catch, not a recovery.  But any type of signal.  He didn't address a catch by a player other than the signaler.  We'll just have to wait on that.

But, he did confirm that the B-25 would be the enforcement spot for A fouls, including KCI.

Robert
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NCAA Discussion / 2018 Blocking Below the Waist
« Last post by ElvisLives on May 28, 2018, 03:12:19 PM »
I know we still have not seen the 'final' rule language regarding the changes to Blocking Below the waist, but I need a little help understanding the part of the new rule related to stationary backs within the Tackle Box (TB), if anybody has any positive information.

In 2017, a stationary BACK, positioned at least partially within the TB, and at least partially within the frame of the body of the second lineman from the snapper at the snap, was allowed to block in ANY direction, and from the side or font of the opponent, until they, or the ball, left the tackle box.  That was 2017.

For 2018, according to the new 9-1-6-a-1, only linemen within the tackle box are permitted to block below the waist from the side, and then only until the ball leaves the TB.  Everybody else, and at all other times and locations, must block from the front, if blocking below the waist.  And, per 2018 9-1-6-a-3, "Players in motion at the snap or lined up outside the tackle box may not block below the waist toward the original position of the ball at the snap."  I'm not an English language or writing scholar, but, by my reading of this language, a stationary back may still BBW TOWARD THE BALL, as long as the block is from the front. Motion man = restricted to from the front, and not toward the ball.  Back positioned outside the TB = restricted to from the front, and not toward the ball.  But, I see nothing that prohibits a stationary back, within the TB at the snap, from BBW toward the ball (as long it is is from the front).
Can someone corroborate this understanding of the new rule?  Or, contradict it, with something in writing?

Related, but not of such concern, is the definition of "...outside the tackle box..."  We don't see the word partially, anywhere, so that would 'seem' to mean that he must not have any part of his body within the TB to be considered "outside."  So, if his leg in inside the TB, then he isn't "outside."  Anybody have any confirming or contradictory information?

Robert
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War Stories / Re: Saddest Thing I've Heard on the Field
« Last post by AlUpstateNY on May 28, 2018, 08:07:44 AM »
It's the volume on that DARN "2nd click".  When a child is born, there are always 2 "clicks", the first one is the sound of the new spotlight (for the child) being turned on.  Everyone hears that click.

There is ALWAYS a second, more subtle click, that unfortunately a lot of parents don't hear (or refuse to pay attention to).  That 2nd click is the sound of their spotlight being turned off, so the first spotlight can gather it's own attention.
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General Discussion / New NFL No Kneel Rule has no teeth
« Last post by TxSkyBolt on May 27, 2018, 09:33:52 PM »



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General Discussion / Re: New NFL No Kneel Rule has no teeth
« Last post by TampaSteve on May 27, 2018, 09:00:39 PM »
FACT:
In week 16, of the +/-1500 nlf roster players who 'protested', there was 20.
(interestingly, about 10 played for SEA.)

what if he camers didnt zoom in on those taking a knee?
what if espn.com didnt give a breakdown of 'who took a knee' this week'?

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General Discussion / Re: New NFL No Kneel Rule has no teeth
« Last post by TampaSteve on May 27, 2018, 08:40:04 PM »
The "issue" is not about money, corporate sponsors or viewership, those are just side effects and distractions.  There are "Life Lessons", we ALL have to learn, that WE ALL just don't do, and places WE ALL just don't go FOR ANY REASON, without expecting, automatic, serious consequences.

We (at least in this Country) have the right to insult someone's mother, but choosing to do so includes a CLEAR expectation of getting "punched in the mouth".  The same applies to using the American Flag and/or Our National Anthem as a phony prop for drawing attention to WHATEVER CAUSE we might personally be concerned about.

All spotlights generate both light and heat, and a very select few draw FAR more heat than light, and ALWAYS produce FAR MORE CONSEQUENCES that will NOT be able to be overcome.

It's not rocket science, when looking for assistance to dramatize WHATEVER cause you may be concerned with, it's wise to avoid those places clearly marked "DON'T GO THERE".  There are ALWAYS alternative paths available, for YOU to choose from.
respectfully disagree.
if we dont think "the official beer of the NFL"; and/or "the "official soft drink of the NFL"; and/or "the official XYZ of the NFL" is displeased with -20% viewership, we may be missing the boat.

Absolutely, 100% about money. - which may not be a bad thing, but still about money

Regardless if I agree or disagree with these displays, in my personal/private opinion, when I go to work for 'corporate USA' with a fortune 50 company, there's no such thing as 'taking a knee' et al if it is not allowed..
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General Discussion / Re: New NFL No Kneel Rule has no teeth
« Last post by Cowman52 on May 27, 2018, 07:26:37 PM »
And somewhere someone is looking to pull a Beliceck and figure a way around it. 
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General Discussion / Re: New NFL No Kneel Rule has no teeth
« Last post by AlUpstateNY on May 27, 2018, 12:13:38 PM »
The "issue" is not about money, corporate sponsors or viewership, those are just side effects and distractions.  There are "Life Lessons", we ALL have to learn, that WE ALL just don't do, and places WE ALL just don't go FOR ANY REASON, without expecting, automatic, serious consequences.

We (at least in this Country) have the right to insult someone's mother, but choosing to do so includes a CLEAR expectation of getting "punched in the mouth".  The same applies to using the American Flag and/or Our National Anthem as a phony prop for drawing attention to WHATEVER CAUSE we might personally be concerned about.

All spotlights generate both light and heat, and a very select few draw FAR more heat than light, and ALWAYS produce FAR MORE CONSEQUENCES that will NOT be able to be overcome.

It's not rocket science, when looking for assistance to dramatize WHATEVER cause you may be concerned with, it's wise to avoid those places clearly marked "DON'T GO THERE".  There are ALWAYS alternative paths available, for YOU to choose from.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: 7-man....anyone ????
« Last post by skip1 on May 27, 2018, 09:42:06 AM »
The R is not needed. The league that I used to officiate used these training tee's When the ball is lifted off the tee a 4 times starts and the beeps. No arguments.

Athletic Specialty Football QB Tee Trainer
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National Federation Discussion / Re: 7-man....anyone ????
« Last post by TampaSteve on May 26, 2018, 08:01:01 PM »
all in all, if there's only one official they'll pay for:
*make him a deep U (shallow B) favoring the strong side.
*A will chase down their balls and spot the balls.
*4-count will be a challenge.
*holding on B will be nearly impossible to call as there's one set of eyes that can only see one side of the ball.
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