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General Discussion / New NFL No Kneel Rule has no teeth
« Last post by TxSkyBolt on Yesterday at 09:33:52 PM »



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General Discussion / Re: New NFL No Kneel Rule has no teeth
« Last post by TampaSteve on Yesterday at 09:00:39 PM »
FACT:
In week 16, of the +/-1500 nlf roster players who 'protested', there was 20.
(interestingly, about 10 played for SEA.)

what if he camers didnt zoom in on those taking a knee?
what if espn.com didnt give a breakdown of 'who took a knee' this week'?

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General Discussion / Re: New NFL No Kneel Rule has no teeth
« Last post by TampaSteve on Yesterday at 08:40:04 PM »
The "issue" is not about money, corporate sponsors or viewership, those are just side effects and distractions.  There are "Life Lessons", we ALL have to learn, that WE ALL just don't do, and places WE ALL just don't go FOR ANY REASON, without expecting, automatic, serious consequences.

We (at least in this Country) have the right to insult someone's mother, but choosing to do so includes a CLEAR expectation of getting "punched in the mouth".  The same applies to using the American Flag and/or Our National Anthem as a phony prop for drawing attention to WHATEVER CAUSE we might personally be concerned about.

All spotlights generate both light and heat, and a very select few draw FAR more heat than light, and ALWAYS produce FAR MORE CONSEQUENCES that will NOT be able to be overcome.

It's not rocket science, when looking for assistance to dramatize WHATEVER cause you may be concerned with, it's wise to avoid those places clearly marked "DON'T GO THERE".  There are ALWAYS alternative paths available, for YOU to choose from.
respectfully disagree.
if we dont think "the official beer of the NFL"; and/or "the "official soft drink of the NFL"; and/or "the official XYZ of the NFL" is displeased with -20% viewership, we may be missing the boat.

Absolutely, 100% about money. - which may not be a bad thing, but still about money

Regardless if I agree or disagree with these displays, in my personal/private opinion, when I go to work for 'corporate USA' with a fortune 50 company, there's no such thing as 'taking a knee' et al if it is not allowed..
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General Discussion / Re: New NFL No Kneel Rule has no teeth
« Last post by Cowman52 on Yesterday at 07:26:37 PM »
And somewhere someone is looking to pull a Beliceck and figure a way around it. 
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General Discussion / Re: New NFL No Kneel Rule has no teeth
« Last post by AlUpstateNY on Yesterday at 12:13:38 PM »
The "issue" is not about money, corporate sponsors or viewership, those are just side effects and distractions.  There are "Life Lessons", we ALL have to learn, that WE ALL just don't do, and places WE ALL just don't go FOR ANY REASON, without expecting, automatic, serious consequences.

We (at least in this Country) have the right to insult someone's mother, but choosing to do so includes a CLEAR expectation of getting "punched in the mouth".  The same applies to using the American Flag and/or Our National Anthem as a phony prop for drawing attention to WHATEVER CAUSE we might personally be concerned about.

All spotlights generate both light and heat, and a very select few draw FAR more heat than light, and ALWAYS produce FAR MORE CONSEQUENCES that will NOT be able to be overcome.

It's not rocket science, when looking for assistance to dramatize WHATEVER cause you may be concerned with, it's wise to avoid those places clearly marked "DON'T GO THERE".  There are ALWAYS alternative paths available, for YOU to choose from.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: 7-man....anyone ????
« Last post by skip1 on Yesterday at 09:42:06 AM »
The R is not needed. The league that I used to officiate used these training tee's When the ball is lifted off the tee a 4 times starts and the beeps. No arguments.

Athletic Specialty Football QB Tee Trainer
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National Federation Discussion / Re: 7-man....anyone ????
« Last post by TampaSteve on May 26, 2018, 08:01:01 PM »
all in all, if there's only one official they'll pay for:
*make him a deep U (shallow B) favoring the strong side.
*A will chase down their balls and spot the balls.
*4-count will be a challenge.
*holding on B will be nearly impossible to call as there's one set of eyes that can only see one side of the ball.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: 7-man....anyone ????
« Last post by TampaSteve on May 26, 2018, 07:55:43 PM »
7-on-7:
a man in the backfield is a waste of a man, in my opinion. - all so the QB can hear him count while 100% of the action is downfield

Preface:
*round here, officials do not chase down balls nor spot the balls.
*each official calls what they see - which is mostly B-holding, DPI or OPI.
*dont worry if a receiver is covered - it's a passing game. who is he fooling out there?

round these parts, for 2-man:
offiaial1: is a L/H on the los presnap, but floats downfield 5yd before the snap (if there's NZ or moving he can see it from there). Once the snap goes off, he continues to float 10-15yd and has his sideline to mid-field and can see for illegal passes - which for a 4-secons count is very rare and close to impossible.

Official2 I see two ways:
scenario1: is a F/S but pre-snap is maybe only 10yd.
Scenario 2: is a B but is 15 yd at the snap and favors the other side of his fellow official (around the numbers so he can see sidelines) and has everything deep.
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General Discussion / Re: New NFL No Kneel Rule has no teeth
« Last post by TampaSteve on May 26, 2018, 07:39:44 PM »
Remember not so long ago that teams were not out there for the anthem? Then alas the nfl was paid to have the players out there.
I strongly think there was big corporate money involved with this ruling. - but would you blame them? ratings far down and corporate folks not getting their money's worth in this dying sport where a typical game is (yawn) 3.25-3.5hours long.

Conversely, while i'm not a big fan, the most popular game in the world has (at most) 2-hour matches and I guarantee today's champions league game attracted at least 2x that of the super bowl.

Love football, but truely sad what this game has become.
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Texas Topics / 40-second clock for Try
« Last post by ElvisLives on May 26, 2018, 08:21:22 AM »
I suspect many of you have already experienced this, but, for what it is worth, we worked a 6A spring game last night, and I can share some experience with the 40-second clock for a Try.  Although they used neither a game clock nor a play clock, they obviously are anticipating the new rule, at least when their offense is on something of a sustained drive.  Each time they scored a TD, they were able to get their "extra point team" on the field and execute the field goal attempt easily within 40 seconds.  All TDs were relatively short plays, so we had no issue retrieving the ball from the scoring player and getting it spotted quickly.  Although we didn't have a play clock running, we had a 'spare' official on the sideline time the intervals.  From the time the signaling official dropped his arms to when the ball was spotted, the worst was 9 seconds, which, of course, was LONNNNG before the team was ready to snap.  They were usually snapping with less than 5 seconds remaining on the play clock, but no problem getting that done. 

We had no long or sudden change TD plays, so we can't testify as to what those might be like.  But, the sustained drive situations are exactly as we envisioned, at least for this team.  The caveat here is that this was a 6A school, and they have a lot of players, so they are able to have a nearly dedicated "extra point team."  You almost surely won't get that at levels below 5A.  Still, probably won't be an issue on sustained drives.

For what it is worth.

Robert
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