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National Federation Discussion / Team A foul behind the LOS
« Last post by NVFOA_Ump on Today at 05:07:23 AM »
1st and 10 at the A15 yard line.  A-8 is in shotgun formation and catches the snap at the A7 yard line. Running back A-21 who is next to A-8 attempts to block blitzing LB B58 and clearly holds him so we have a flag down.  What are the possible results of:

a.  A-8 immediately tucks the ball away and runs until he is downed at the A26 yard line.

b.  A-8 tosses a backward pass to WR A-81 who has come around behind him and runs until he is downed at the A26 yard line.

c.  A-8 throws a forward pass to WR A-81 who catches the ball at the A19 and runs until he is downed at the A26 yard line.
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National Federation Discussion / Team A foul in the EZ
« Last post by NVFOA_Ump on Today at 05:04:03 AM »
1st and 10 at the A5 yard line.  A-8 is in shotgun formation and catches the snap 3 yards deep in his own EZ.  Running back A-21 who is next to A-8 attempts to block blitzing LB B-58 and clearly holds him in the EZ so we have a flag down in the EZ.  What are the possible results of:

a.  A-8 immediately tucks the ball away and runs until he is downed at the A26 yard line.

b.  A-8 tosses a backward pass to WR A-81 who has come around behind him and runs until he is downed at the A26 yard line.

c.  A-8 throws a forward pass to WR A-81 who catches the ball at the A10 and runs until he is downed at the A26 yard line.
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4th and 18 at the 50 yard line.  A29 punts and the kick is muffed by B81 at the B-25 yard line and A81 recovers the rolling loose ball on the B-35.  During the kick RTK is called on B72.  What are all of the options here?
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For the Neutral Zone Expanded Rule to apply to an offensive lineman he must engage the defender he is blocking at the snap and not be beyond the 2-yard Expanded Neutral Zone when the pass is thrown across the LOS. If he disengages after that initial block then there's no foul. If he goes downfield looking to engage someone he is an Ineligible Receiver Downfield if the pass crosses the LOS. If he goes downfield and then retreats back behind the LOS, technically he is an Ineligible Receiver Downfield. Use your common sense. Don't confuse the Free Blocking Zone Rule with the Neutral Zone Expanded Rule and know how it applies to Scrimmage Kicks in regards to K-First Touching.

So when snapper A-50 who is head up at the snap attempts to block "blitzing" linebacker B-51 who is on the LOS at the snap takes a couple of steps upfield with B-51 who delays and then backs out into coverage, you're going to have a flag for IDP if there is no contact?  Isn't this another case where simple common sense and judgment come into play?  And if A-50 is in fact back in the NZ as the forward pass crosses the LOS who is making that call?
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For the Neutral Zone Expanded Rule to apply to an offensive lineman he must engage the defender he is blocking at the snap and not be beyond the 2-yard Expanded Neutral Zone when the pass is thrown across the LOS. If he disengages after that initial block then there's no foul. If he goes downfield looking to engage someone he is an Ineligible Receiver Downfield if the pass crosses the LOS. If he goes downfield and then retreats back behind the LOS, technically he is an Ineligible Receiver Downfield. Use your common sense. Don't confuse the Free Blocking Zone Rule with the Neutral Zone Expanded Rule and know how it applies to Scrimmage Kicks in regards to K-First Touching.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Scrimmage Kick Help
« Last post by blandis on Today at 01:20:05 AM »
R may signal behind the LOS and you will stop play when he recovers or catches the kick. However, you will not award a Free Kick Down or allow R to spot the ball anywhere between the inbounds marks (hash marks) if this were to happen.
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Members of my association have tried that and applied it on their own. There is are two reasons it is a 15-minute half, one it's the rule (unless both coaches agree to a shortened half prior to the opening kick off), and two the players do need that time to physiologically hydrate and recover for the 2nd half. Follow the rules or legally you can be sued and it will look ugly in court if a lawyer gets an official to admit that he did not follow the rules.
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Members of my association have tried that and applied it on their own. There is are two reasons it is a 15-minute half, one it's the rule (unless both coaches agree to a shortened had prior to the opening kick off), and two the players do need that time to physiologically hydrate and recover for the 2nd half. Follow the rules or legally you can be sued and it will look ugly in court if a lawyer gets an official to admit that he did not follow the rules.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: 2019 Rule Changes
« Last post by blandis on Today at 12:58:49 AM »
The way I see this rule is the old "no man's land" verbiage is done away with. If a player is clearly not a back then he must be on the LOS. It does away with the Illegal Formation calls for a "6-man line" because a goofy-minded Split End could not figure out how to stand on the LOS and would put himself in a position that was neither on the LOS or behind the waistline of the snapper. That is, of course, with 11-players on offense. Now, let's say there are less than 11-offensive players. If there are 10-players with 6 on the LOS and 4 in the back field this is now a legal formation. 9-players? 5 on the LOS and 4 in the backfield is now a legal formation. This goes against over 100-years of football rules and will take some getting used to.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: 2019 Rule Changes
« Last post by HLinNC on Yesterday at 06:27:16 PM »
Sustitute "can" for may in this instance.  It is best to read NFHS exam questions in the context of what is being asked at the moment, not in the realm of the possible.  And you may still be wrong.  They've been known to toss out questions after the exams are all in.
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