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NCAA Discussion / Wedge question - are any double-team blocks now a foul?
« Last post by Archie on Yesterday at 01:15:12 PM »
So, if the receivers try to double-team block a kicking team man, do we have a 15-yard foul (unless the kick is a touchback, goes OOB or gets a fair catch)?
The statement of the penalty, says "Noncontact foul". What does this mean (I don't see that term used anywhere else in the book)? Perhaps it means that just getting the blockers shoulder to shoulder is the foul, regardless whether they actually team up to block a gunner. This will mean that the BJ, U and CJ will have to look for potential double-teams...

 
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National Federation Discussion / Re: 2019 Rule Changes
« Last post by ucanfindmj on Yesterday at 01:08:07 PM »
There are also differences of criticality. Calling a respected official and a fellow member of this board as someone who "has no concept of the game of football" crosses the line of critique into personal abuse in my book.

This board...  Does that mean you are on it?  And who is this respected official to which you refer?  If there is a respected official on the rules committee, I lost respect to him 3 years ago.  My quote was "seemingly has no concept of the game of football."  I'm going to stick behind it, and would like to add, concept of the English language.  Use it as constructive criticism and do better.  Personal abuse...laughable.  I hope you are not on the board.  If you feel personally abused, you do not belong there.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: Blindside Block?
« Last post by bctgp on Yesterday at 01:02:57 PM »
The video also points out that the BSB doesn't have to occur in the open-field. It could just as well be a crackback type of block.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: 2019 Rule Changes
« Last post by CalhounLJ on Yesterday at 12:22:48 PM »
The offense has 10 players on the field.  Tubby, number 62, who lines up between the snapper and the tackle, is too bust staring at the homecoming queen, so there are 6 players on the line of scrimmage, and 4 backs.  Despite that, Lefty throws a touchdown to Stretch.

Last year, not only was team A at a disadvantage because of Tubby's hormones, but even though they were playing at a disadvantage to themselves, they lost the TD and suffered a 5 yard penalty from the previous spot on top of it.  This year, Tubby's forgetfulness isn't penalized, and team A gets to keep the results of their play.  Having 6 on the line and 4 backs doesn't benefit them in any way; why should they be penalized when they put themselves at a disadvantage and overcame it anyway?
Well, technically this is still a foul under the new rule, assuming Tubby is one of the five players numbered 50-79. If he's off the line at the snap, Team A didn't have 5 on the line numbered correctly.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Apple Watch 40/25 clock app
« Last post by Kalle on Yesterday at 11:51:44 AM »
I've downloaded RefSupport which is actually made for soccer refs, but it seems pretty decent even for football. Haven't yet tried it out on a game, though.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: 2019 Rule Changes
« Last post by Kalle on Yesterday at 11:50:25 AM »
Magician.  Thanks for calling me out.  Last time I checked, this was a discussion forum.  I appreciate the advice.  So where do I go to be critical of the rules committee?

There are also differences of criticality. Calling a respected official and a fellow member of this board as someone who "has no concept of the game of football" crosses the line of critique into personal abuse in my book.
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Yes, technically it's a foul, just as technically a holding foul away from the point of attack is a foul. 

We don't flag the holding foul that occurs away from the point of attack, because there's no advantage gained. Why call this if the player was in for the previous play but there's a defender guarding him, so there's no advantage gained?

Agreed, this is not a rule that we want to be technical with.  If we have a clear problem then we're flagging it, but otherwise we're leaving this alone.  This is also an area where the wing officials may offer some preventive officiating early in the game by suggesting to the WR's that they not line up outside the 9's until the ball is on the ground at the LOS.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: Blindside Block?
« Last post by Magician on Yesterday at 11:24:51 AM »
. I am confused.   I thought NFHS said NOT a foul if leads with open hands ?

That is correct and exactly my point. He eliminates any judgement the official has to make if he leads with his hands in NFHS. It makes it easier to coach and officiate. NCAA doesn't provide that clear option. I'm still a big fan of the rule and think it will generally be fine.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: Blindside Block?
« Last post by NVFOA_Ump on Yesterday at 11:22:47 AM »
. I am confused.   I thought NFHS said NOT a foul if leads with open hands ?

That's correct. For this foul to be legal in NFHS the blocker MUST make initial contact with open hands, palms out, and arms extended.  Initial contact with body/shoulder would 100% of the time be a foul.
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