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NCAA Discussion / Re: Keep our minds working...
« Last post by bctgp on June 23, 2019, 11:06:06 PM »
The HL was standing on the sideline when he picked the ball up - therefore out of bounds. Sorry, I should have been more overt about that point.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: Keep our minds working...
« Last post by Legacy Zebra on June 23, 2019, 10:19:37 PM »
Was the H out of bounds? That would affect the ruling.

H out of bounds: By touching the ball, the H has made the ball dead out of bounds. B can either enforce the ILB at the spot of the foul (batting is not part of the previous spot exception from 3&1) or enforce it from the dead ball spot and get the ball. There is no loss of down for this batting because the ball crossed the neutral zone when it hit the ground at the A-31. Team B will elect to enforce the batting from the A-29 and have 1st and 10 from the A-19. GC Snap PC 25.

H inbounds: The ball is dead when the H gains possession and inadvertent whistle provisions apply. Because this was still a kick, the only option is to replay the down. However any fouls or violations can still be applied. That means Team B could accept the penalty for batting from the spot of the foul and make it 4th and 13 from the A-17. But they won't because we didn't just have a foul, we also had a violation. As mentioned above, when the ball bounced at the A-31, it crossed the neutral zone by rule. That makes A35's bat illegal touching as well. So Team B will decline the penalty for the batting and take the ITK violation at the A-27 and have 1st and 10 from there. GC Snap PC 25.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: Keep our minds working...
« Last post by bctgp on June 23, 2019, 09:50:30 PM »
Here is a good one (I have the video but is it greater than 700kb so I cannot post).

4th & 1 at the A-29 and Team A's punt lands at the A-31 and rebounds untouched by anyone to near the A-27 where A35 bats the ball forward toward to the A-29 where the HL is standing on the sideline and reaches down and picks up the ball before it goes out of bounds.

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National Federation Discussion / Re: A method for shortening halftime.....
« Last post by AlUpstateNY on June 22, 2019, 10:38:25 AM »
Obviously, we're going to do it, because it's the rule.  Just saying the rule itself is silly.  Especially when both teams are ready to go and we have to wait for 3 minutes to tick off the clock before starting. If you want to warm up, get out there 3 minutes prior to halftime ending on your own and warm up. If a player doesn't play the whole game until the 4th qtr, should he need 3 minutes to warm up prior to entering the game?  No.  Same difference.

If a coach/school decides to ignore the 3 minute warm-up REQUIREMENT, that's on THEM.  IF WE ALLOW them to get away with it, that shifts the RESPONSIBILITY for whatever BAD happens thereafter to US.  Why would we want to do that?
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National Federation Discussion / Re: A method for shortening halftime.....
« Last post by bossman72 on June 21, 2019, 10:20:52 PM »
Obviously, we're going to do it, because it's the rule.  Just saying the rule itself is silly.  Especially when both teams are ready to go and we have to wait for 3 minutes to tick off the clock before starting.

If you want to warm up, get out there 3 minutes prior to halftime ending on your own and warm up.

If a player doesn't play the whole game until the 4th qtr, should he need 3 minutes to warm up prior to entering the game?  No.  Same difference.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: A method for shortening halftime.....
« Last post by riffraft on June 21, 2019, 04:31:05 PM »
We might think it's silly but in RI we've been told under no circumstances do we deviate from the 3 minute warmup with the time displayed on the game clock.  We can, with the express agreement of both coaches tweak the half-time length, but the 3 minutes must stay.  We're being told the same here in MA for our 1st season under NFHS rules.

We are told the same thing in AZ
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National Federation Discussion / Re: A method for shortening halftime.....
« Last post by AlUpstateNY on June 21, 2019, 03:22:02 PM »
3 minute warm up rule is just silly.  Just make halftime longer.  If you want to warm up, come out sooner.  Clock hits zero, we're kicking off.

It's a safety precaution, as EVERYONE should loosen up after the intermission and before going at full tilt again.  Bands on the field, aside, when the intermission is over (15, 10, whatever has been agreed) and/or both teams are back on the field,  3 minutes (by rule NFHS Table:3-1) for a "Mandatory Warm-up Period".

Not sure who may be held liable if that "Mandatory" rule instruction is ignored and someone gets hurt, AND have absolutely no interest in finding out.
 
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National Federation Discussion / Re: A method for shortening halftime.....
« Last post by NVFOA_Ump on June 21, 2019, 02:38:23 PM »
3 minute warm up rule is just silly.  Just make halftime longer.  If you want to warm up, come out sooner.  Clock hits zero, we're kicking off.

We might think it's silly but in RI we've been told under no circumstances do we deviate from the 3 minute warmup with the time displayed on the game clock.  We can, with the express agreement of both coaches tweak the half-time length, but the 3 minutes must stay.  We're being told the same here in MA for our 1st season under NFHS rules.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: A method for shortening halftime.....
« Last post by bossman72 on June 21, 2019, 01:03:21 PM »
3 minute warm up rule is just silly.  Just make halftime longer.  If you want to warm up, come out sooner.  Clock hits zero, we're kicking off.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: A method for shortening halftime.....
« Last post by Magician on June 21, 2019, 12:33:40 PM »
I've never seen a varsity team, much less two, come back to the field that soon.  We're fortunate not to have to send somebody regularly to one locker room to summon them out before the clock hits 0:00.
 
We've seen teams come out a minute or two early and do a quick stretch and head to the sideline ready to go as the clock hits 0. We put 3 minutes on the clock and run it. Sometimes they'll do more stretching. Most of the time they stand around waiting for the clock to expire.
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