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Re: kickoff out of bounds?
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2017, 06:09:33 AM »
On only an airborne kick would you need to consider the sideline plane. The feeling back in 2000 was that a bouncing kick was in bounds until it landed OOB. If it touched R ,who was touching OOB, it would be considered R fault the kick went OOB.

Hope that helps to make it clearer.
  Thank you for your time and patience, you've been very helpful.  I don't like the differentiation between airborne and bouncing kicks.  Just my opinion though.

K attempts a pooch kick, but shanks it.  R runs 5 yards OOB near the 25 yard lane and catches the airborne kick on the fly.  = OOB caused by K, foul.  R takes the 5 yard penalty and we rekick.

K attempts another pooch kick and shanks it again, but not so bad.   This time the ball lands inbounds and bounces once high in the air.   R runs 5 yards OOB near the 25 yard lane and catches the kick before it touches the ground OB.  = OOB caused by R, new series for R at the 25 yl.

That's going to be a tough sell.
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Re: kickoff out of bounds?
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2017, 08:30:42 AM »
We were going to put a rule change in last year to say "It is only a foul for KOB if the kick becomes OOB while on or over OOB territory".  But I think we submitted it too late.  There's always next year.

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Re: kickoff out of bounds?
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2017, 08:33:05 AM »
A "legal" pop up kick? ??
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Re: kickoff out of bounds?
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2017, 07:14:36 PM »
A "legal" pop up kick? ??
Yeah, that kick that looks like you hit it with a nine iron.  I don't know what it would be called.

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Re: kickoff out of bounds?
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2017, 07:39:28 PM »
Yeah, that kick that looks like you hit it with a nine iron.  I don't know what it would be called.
See rules 2-24-10 and 6-1-11.
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Re: kickoff out of bounds?
« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2017, 08:53:55 PM »
See rules 2-26-10 and 6-1-11.
Rulesman:  I believe you mean 2-24-10.
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Re: kickoff out of bounds?
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2017, 06:42:19 AM »
Yeah, that kick that looks like you hit it with a nine iron.  I don't know what it would be called.
Do you mean a "Pooch Kick?" That kick goes directly into the air without touching ground and looks like you hit it with a nine iron
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Re: kickoff out of bounds?
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2017, 08:29:45 AM »
Rulesman:  I believe you mean 2-24-10.
(I can't proofread my work either.)
So noted and corrected. Thanks. That was a big fat fingered post.
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Re: kickoff out of bounds?
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2017, 11:10:59 AM »
See rules 2-24-10 and 6-1-11.
Do you think that helps?  I get it, and said so.  Not a pop up kick.  I was referring to that short chip shot that that just clears the front line of R, but it is not driven immediately into the ground.  So it looks like a pop up kick, but it's not, and it's legal.  Someone else suggested a "pouch" kick.  Is that what it is called?  And I think he meant to type "pooch" actually.
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