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Offline Curious

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WHY NCAA RULES?
« on: October 09, 2015, 02:28:52 PM »
As one of only two states that use NCAA football rules as opposed to NFHS rules, and given the relatively small number of schools in Massachusetts, I have often wonder why that choice was made.  I can understand that Texas lives completely in its own world; but is Massachusetts still fighting the Revolutionary War? :o ;D

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Re: WHY NCAA RULES?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2015, 06:07:35 PM »
Personally, I find it interesting that Massachusetts and Texas can agree on something.

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Re: WHY NCAA RULES?
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2015, 11:38:39 AM »
Mass just wanted to do things right for a change
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Re: WHY NCAA RULES?
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2015, 11:59:18 AM »
When Texans played football in the backyard of the Alamo (before Santa Anna) there were no federation rules, only NCAA. The rest is history.

Offline TXMike

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Re: WHY NCAA RULES?
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2015, 11:38:01 AM »
The absolute best book any student of the rules can buy is "Anatomy of a Game" by David Nelson.  It was  published  in 1994 and was year by year analysis of the rules and changes starting in the 1870's. 

He reported that in 1930 the NFHS decided to write its own code after being denied a seat on the NCAA Rules Committee. The game as very dangerous at that time.  There were almost 50 deaths a year, with 80% being at the HS level.  But Texas did not join the NFHS until 1969 so for 40 years I suppose the reason was that Texas was not part of the NFHS.  By then, Texas HS football ( and the coaches)  became so powerful it would be near impossible to get a change , and that is true still.  For many many years, Texas high schools had a rep in the committee room , even if not officially on the committee, so there was widespread belief Texas HS concerns were being addressed for the most part.   

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Re: WHY NCAA RULES?
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2015, 10:39:54 AM »
Thanks Mike.

Should be interesting reading....

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Re: WHY NCAA RULES?
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2015, 09:14:30 AM »
Good luck finding a copy cheaply, though. Amazon shows $64 as their lowest price.

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Re: WHY NCAA RULES?
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2015, 11:41:52 AM »
Dayum!! Once in my life I made an investment that has gained in value!!!!

Offline Osric Pureheart

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Re: WHY NCAA RULES?
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2015, 02:08:08 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2016, 01:17:23 PM »
...For many many years, Texas high schools had a rep in the committee room , even if not officially on the committee, so there was widespread belief Texas HS concerns were being addressed for the most part.

Many others would believe such "widespread belief" could only be found within the borders of the State of Texas. 8]
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Re: WHY NCAA RULES?
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2017, 06:18:55 PM »
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Many others would believe such "widespread belief" could only be found within the borders of the State of Texas.

I'm not sure why. Single AREAS in Texas work FAR more games under NCAA rules than colleges at all levels play. Texas was a great laboratory for testing and research. Why it isn't still used that way is beyond me. My guess is that the coaches on the committee were bothered by the idea that a rule change suggestion could be made without ANY interest in how it would affect actual college teams.

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Re: WHY NCAA RULES?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2017, 06:21:55 PM »
Even not being in the room , we still had some ability to make input through Rogers' many contacts in Texas.  That of course will end with Steve Shaw.

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Re: WHY NCAA RULES?
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2017, 05:28:20 AM »
What are the differences between NCAA and modified TX rules ?
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Re: WHY NCAA RULES?
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2017, 06:15:27 AM »