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Offline bmem66

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1st down or not
« on: October 03, 2016, 08:04:10 PM »
A's ball 1st and 10 on their 30 and LTG is the 40.  A32 gains 18 yards on a run to the 48 and during the run, A75 blocks in the back at the A47.  A achieved the LTG with clean hands.   When the penalty is enforced 10 yards from the 47 to the 37, is it 1st and 10 or 1st and 3?
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Re: 1sr down or not
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2016, 08:10:35 PM »
First and 3
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Re: 1sr down or not
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2016, 06:54:48 AM »
The gist 5-1-2 states "a new series of downs shall be awarded only after considering the effect of any act during the down"

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Re: 1sr down or not
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2016, 07:31:10 AM »
A response to B's coach that may be grumbling, "GEZ, they fouled AND now they've got 1st & 3 >:(!" is, "Coach, BY Rule the stakes don't move until we've enforced the penalty."

IF the enforcement spot is about 10 yards beyond the line to gain, a mechanic you could use :

  (1) Replace flag with ball;
  (2) bring out chains;
  (3) U secures lead pole;
  (4) HL secures trail pole and brings it around and stretches toward ball;
  (5) this will enable WH to determine if new series was created.

Editor's note : If the score is 40-0, you may only want to guess ;).


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Re: 1sr down or not
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2016, 07:48:07 AM »
A response to B's coach that may be grumbling, "GEZ, they fouled AND now they've got 1st & 3 >:(!" is, "Coach, BY Rule the stakes don't move until we've enforced the penalty."

IF the enforcement spot is about 10 yards beyond the line to gain, a mechanic you could use :

  (1) Replace flag with ball;
  (2) bring out chains;
  (3) U secures lead pole;
  (4) HL secures trail pole and brings it around and stretches toward ball;
  (5) this will enable WH to determine if new series was created.

Editor's note : If the score is 40-0, you may only want to guess ;).
Or start your series on a line. That way, we just need to confirm the flag placement is correct :)

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