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Offline BrendanP

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Muffed punt and roughing the kicker
« on: March 19, 2017, 10:42:01 PM »
4th and 15 from A35. A40 punts and gets obliterated by B24, for which a flag is thrown. Meanwhile, B80 muffs the kick and A15 recovers at the B30. Is team A taking the recovery and the 15 yards here, or is the penalty declined?

Offline Kalle

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Re: Muffed punt and roughing the kicker
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2017, 02:38:11 AM »
In NCAA style rule sets the penalty will be declined (unless period extension is a factor). The penalty is enforced from the previous spot and there is no provision to enforce such fouls from the spot where the ball belongs to team A at the end of the down. B24 might of course be ejected, depending on the severity of the contact.

Offline AlUpstateNY

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Re: Muffed punt and roughing the kicker
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2017, 09:06:49 AM »
4th and 15 from A35. A40 punts and gets obliterated by B24, for which a flag is thrown. Meanwhile, B80 muffs the kick and A15 recovers at the B30. Is team A taking the recovery and the 15 yards here, or is the penalty declined?

Roughing the kicker is a (loose ball) live ball foul, with a penalty of 15 yards, from the previous spot, plus awarding of an automatic 1st down, from the succeeding spot.  A would have the standard option to accept the penalty, resulting in a 1st & 10 for A at midfield, or declining the penalty accepting the result of the play which would give them a 1st and 10 (due to the recovery) at the B 30 yard line.

A's choice is either/or, not both.

Offline Ralph Damren

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Re: Muffed punt and roughing the kicker
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2017, 10:12:32 AM »
In NFHS, the only roughing foul that has potential for end of run enforcement is roughing the passer.

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Re: Muffed punt and roughing the kicker
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2017, 08:22:24 AM »
Brendan,

Kicks are the most difficult penalty enforcement. For fouls be Team B it can be previous spot, PSK, or 3 & 1. Hopefully this helps simplify the enforcement for you for Team B fouls during punt plays:

If Team B fouls while trying to block the kick = previous spot

If Team B fouls during the kick or, by philosophy, setting up the return = PSK (if other requirements are met)

If Team B fouls during the return = 3 & 1

If you remember this, you'll get 99% correct.
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