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Offline RMR

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Informal poll - coin toss...
« on: August 13, 2019, 08:49:20 PM »
catch it or let it hit the ground?
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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2019, 09:18:04 PM »
Catch it.  If I drop it, we flip it again

Offline bossman72

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2019, 09:31:55 PM »
Hit the ground.

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2019, 09:55:00 PM »
Those that say catch it, do you catch with one hand and cover it with the other or do you catch with one hand and then flip it over to your other arm/ hand?

And if you do flip are you actually changing their call.That is why I let it hit the ground ( except on muddy fields)
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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2019, 05:31:48 AM »
Let it hit the ground.  Here in eastern MA about 9 of 10 fields are turf and we're not worrying about the mud.
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Offline CalhounLJ

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2019, 05:49:23 AM »
Catch and cover. No flip.


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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2019, 06:44:39 AM »
And if you do flip are you actually changing their call.

HUH???????

Offline CalhounLJ

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2019, 06:59:53 AM »
if you catch the coin and its heads up, if you flip it, it will be tails up. You have effectively changed the outcome of the coin toss. Theoretically speaking, of course.   :patrioticon:

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2019, 07:09:46 AM »
Catch and cover. No flip. Before I toss I tell them “if it hits the ground, I’ll do it again.”

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2019, 07:12:08 AM »
Turf= ground
Grass=catch

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2019, 08:22:22 AM »
Turf= ground
Grass=catch
Do not flip over when I catch

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2019, 08:30:30 AM »
Let it hit the ground whenever possible.  If the natural grass is so deep that the coin will disappear or possibly land on edge (or you'd be tossing into mud), then you have no choice but to catch it.  If you must catch it, catch it flat with both hands - do not turn your hands over - and reveal by lifting the top hand off the coin.
One way to avoid having the coin disappear in the grass or having it land on edge is to use a large coin - nothing smaller than a silver dollar.  Even better to get a dedicated flipping coin (not currency).  They tend to be a bit oversize, are easier to see, and offer a little bit more "ceremony" to the event.  And they don't fall into the grass as easily.  Your association might consider having a custom coin struck for this purpose.  You'll pay a one-time set-up fee, and then have some cost per coin, but it makes for a nice experience for everybody.
To make it even easier, I add a little color to each side of the coin (different color for each side).  My coin has a helmet on one side (heads) that I fill in with red, and a snapper - seen from his back side in snapping position (tails) - on the other side that I fill in with blue.

When you let it hit the ground, toss it out in front of you a step or so, and have your umpire pick it up for you while you carry on with the captains choices.  Makes it a little more efficient.  But, you have to be sure you have a trustworthy U, or you may not get your coin back!

And, by the way, the coin toss is not a time for a lecture on sportsmanship.  If you have a field mic, go ahead and flip it on.  Just have the captains introduce themselves to each other (handshakes), introduce yourself, and then get right into the toss process.  Verify which visiting captain will call the toss, show the coin (both sides) to the captains, get the visiting captain's choice BEFORE tossing the coin, verify that choice with the home captain ("He called heads, correct?"), then pause briefly and toss the coin.  Announce the results ("It's heads - you've won the toss.") as you place a hand on the winning captain's shoulder, and get his choice. (Before bringing the captains out, the escorting officials (R & U in Texas, crew of 5) should have asked the calling captain what he plans to do if he wins the toss, if the opponent wins and defers, or if the opponent wins and elects to receive, so there isn't any confusion, and we can help them out if they do get confused.)  If the winner defers, step to his open side, place a hand on his shoulder and announce, "North High has won the toss, and defers to the second half."  Then turn to the opponent and get his choice, i.e., confirm that he wants to receive.  If he says anything other than receive, put on the brakes and make sure he understands what is going on.  If he still insists on defending a goal or (heaven forbid, kicking), switch off your mic, and take the time you need to make sure that is what his coach wants (which 99.99999999% of the time will be receive).  Then (with mic back on) confirm which end of the field the other team wants to defend, have both sets of captains place their backs to the goals they will defend, step to the pressbox end of the receiving team captain, signal and announce, "South High will receive."  Then dismiss them with something like, "Good luck fellas - have a great game."  Switch off your mic.

Sorry.  I didn't mean to patronize or lecture.  I just had some time to kill, and wanted to ramble.  I do enjoy this so.

Robert

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2019, 08:34:31 AM »
Now there's an example of a $1,000 answer to a 10 cent question.  :laugh: cRaZy :bOW

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2019, 09:10:05 AM »
Being an ole' duffer, I find it is easier to  bend over and pick up the coin than to catch it. If you are wearing a mic, in lieu of "testing 1-2-3"; may I suggest, "does anyone in the stands have change for a dollar for the coin toss??.

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2019, 09:23:59 AM »
Tennessee has mandated catch.
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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2019, 10:15:58 AM »
The FHSAA has provided us with the "Contest Official's Pregame Sportsmanship Statement" which is to be read to the captains prior to the coin toss.
"The FHSAA requires officials to enforce all rules regarding unsportsmanlike conduct by athletes and coaches.  Violators will be ejected.  It is strongly suggested that you remind teammates and coaches of this policy.  Additionally, this is a reminder that athletes are not allowed to wear jewelry during competition."

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2019, 10:52:15 AM »
The FHSAA has provided us with the "Contest Official's Pregame Sportsmanship Statement" which is to be read to the captains prior to the coin toss.
"The FHSAA requires officials to enforce all rules regarding unsportsmanlike conduct by athletes and coaches.  Violators will be ejected.  It is strongly suggested that you remind teammates and coaches of this policy.  Additionally, this is a reminder that athletes are not allowed to wear jewelry during competition."

Well, there you go.  Always do what you boss tells you to do.

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2019, 10:57:31 AM »
Now there's an example of a $1,000 answer to a 10 cent question.  :laugh: cRaZy :bOW

Well, I expect my check in the mail any day, now.  :)

What's the expression?  You get that for which you pay?  (In Oklahoma, I think they say, "Ya git whut ya pay for.")   :o

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2019, 01:05:52 PM »
The FHSAA has provided us with the "Contest Official's Pregame Sportsmanship Statement" which is to be read to the captains prior to the coin toss.
"The FHSAA requires officials to enforce all rules regarding unsportsmanlike conduct by athletes and coaches.  Violators will be ejected.  It is strongly suggested that you remind teammates and coaches of this policy.  Additionally, this is a reminder that athletes are not allowed to wear jewelry during competition."
LOL LOL LOL

The pointless sportsmanship memo.

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2019, 02:56:28 PM »
Catch and cover. No flip. Before I toss I tell them “if it hits the ground, I’ll do it again.”
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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2019, 04:37:22 PM »
The next question is, "If one team wants to defer and the other team wants to receive, do we need to do a coin toss?"  :sTiR:

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2019, 04:41:24 PM »
Either that or Rock Paper Scissors. We need some way to decide who gets to defer and who gets to receive.


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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2019, 04:46:12 PM »
The next question is, "If one team wants to defer and the other team wants to receive, do we need to do a coin toss?"  :sTiR:

If you omit the coin flip and just go with what the teams have said they want:

Which team gets to choose a goal to defend in the first half?

Which team does what in the second half?

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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2019, 04:47:24 PM »
On that note, what’s the most unusual “coin” you have used? I once used a bottle cap in a JV game.  Forgot my silver dollar.


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Re: Informal poll - coin toss...
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2019, 05:02:02 PM »
Fingers behind my back, odd or even on Thursday!