KCI ? Video

[TXMike]

[Welpe]

I've watched this perhaps a dozen times and I think I'm leaning towards no KCI.

[NVFOA_Ump]

Don't think that we can let this go unflagged.

Maybe the Team A player who is actually fielding the kick is not technically interfering with any Team B players, but he's got 3 teammates downfield in the path of several Team B players who have to get by them to get to the ball.  One of those players clearly impedes a Team B player and is actually in contact with him, he's got his hand on his hip and is trying to get to the area where the kick will be, while the ball is about to be muffed by the Team A player a yard or two ahead of him (#1 in the photo below IMO is guilty of KCI).

[Andrew McCarthy]

I've got KCI.

[rickref]

This is the play that sparked my other thread. I altered the play in my play situations but you can see now how tough this can get.

So we have KCI in some opinions. B is on K restraining line and L is on same side down field. Across on  is U and H is on 50. Lets discuss how to be ready to cover this play.

[williebe]

Rick dont really know the game status, but it appears this isnt an apparent onside kick, so it is a little harder to cover with 5 man crew. If it was an apparent onside we would have help with the L moving to the receiving team restraining line. But as is was in this play another tough one for a 5 man crew to pick up. BTW im going with KCI. If you are going to be up to trickery better perform it to perfection. IMO.

[The Roamin' Umpire]

Put me down for a flag on this one.

In terms of coverage, since it's so short and he's looking into the receiver, this is B's primary. On this play, once he deals with his duties at the restraining line (including making sure the kicker doesn't get clobbered), he should recognize the players converging for a short kick and pick up the potential receiver.

L will pick up the ball immediately, and thus has a better idea of where the kick is headed. As soon as he reads short, he should look at the hits around the landing zone and hustle to get within 10 yards or so of the play.

[Welpe]

Well I've been wrong before...I can't remember when but I think I was once.

[Osric Pureheart]

L will pick up the ball immediately, and thus has a better idea of where the kick is headed. As soon as he reads short, he should look at the hits around the landing zone and hustle to get within 10 yards or so of the play.

...although hopefully not as close as the guy in the video ends up getting 

[MJT]

I've got KCI. It looks to me like the outside R player is looking at the ball, and trying to make his way to it but the K player jumps in the air to catch it before the ball gets to the ground. If you freeze it at about the 60% mark, just as K is touching the ball after jumping, you will see what I mean. If K does not do that I think the R player would at least have a chance at making a diving catch, or catch with a knee on the ground as he comes forward 1 or 2 more yards. That is enough to say that K has impeded his opportunity to make the catch.  

[fbrefga]

No KCI.  As suggested, freeze the video around 9 seconds.  K7 is trying to make a play on the ball.  The nearest R player is not looking at the ball.  He is about to block K15.  This R player is then preventing another R player from making a play on the ball.

[Mike L]

If the K player does not go up for an attempt to catch the ball and the ball was allowed to come down, is there a R player in position to make the catch? If yes, you have KCI plain and simple.
On this play, I would have KCI.

[bafra31]

This hinges on which Team B players are "attempting to catch a kick and so located that he could have caught" the ball. To me, nobody in the front rank is attempting to do so. Is the man who comes up quickly from the second rank "located" to do so?

[JasonTX]

B5 appears to be running up to make the catch but the A player gets to it first.  B5 then turns to run after the ball after it goes past him.   

[rickref]

I am in the small camp that feels no KCI. Closest B player is blocking a A player. Guy who is 4 yards away was hustling back up. To me like any dpi or hold I just simply am not seeing enough for KCI.  Just my opinions. Oddly when discussed ina room full of guys the majority seem to feel same as I do. But still all agree it is real close.

The funny part to this vid is the intention was to show L not to close so fast and save your legs for another day. The rest was extra and provided some fun the other night.

[JasonTX]

Something else I noticed was that B5 is looking up at the ball, and to me that shows he is moving to make the catch but doesn't have a clear path to the ball due to the A players being in the way.  The other B player blocking looks as if he thought the ball went passed him and he was just blocking for a return.

[DD]

On all KOs the mind set should be for a short kick. If the ball goes deep, then no problem. In a NCAA game several years ago on the opening KO the kicker sliped and barley touched the ball and caught the officials off guard. You could see the wheels spinning in their heads on what to do.