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Offline zebraken

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is this always true?
« on: October 08, 2012, 09:22:11 AM »
is this statement always true?.........unless there is a deadball foul after the ready for play whistle, 'A' can never start a new series facing  first and more than 10 yards to gain.

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Re: is this always true?
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2012, 09:24:07 AM »
correct.

Offline Curious

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Re: is this always true?
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2012, 10:07:58 AM »
There's that ugly word again (always)....

How about in OT - where the line to gain is ALWAYS the goal line?  Could have more than 10 yds to go with a carry over foul from regulation.  The offending team could be first on offense (A) and have a penalty assessed in OT prior their new series.

Otherwise, "Tampa" is right (5-3-1)

Offline Atlanta Blue

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Re: is this always true?
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2012, 10:25:22 AM »
There's that ugly word again (always)....

How about in OT - where the line to gain is ALWAYS the goal line? 

Depends on your state.  Since we start on the 15, it's still 1st and 10, even with a carry over foul.

Offline sir55

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Re: is this always true?
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2012, 09:37:21 PM »
On the FED test the answer was true.

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Re: is this always true?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2012, 09:53:18 AM »
On the FED test the answer was true.
I believe the Fed test references the 10 yard overtime procedure which would make the answer to the question true.
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Re: is this always true?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2012, 10:33:35 AM »
I believe the Fed test references the 10 yard overtime procedure which would make the answer to the question true.

If the test references the 10 yard-line OT procedure, wouldn't that make the answer False?  It would be 1st and goal from wherever.....

Offline maven

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Re: is this always true?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2012, 10:40:33 AM »
If the test references the 10 yard-line OT procedure, wouldn't that make the answer False?  It would be 1st and goal from wherever.....

Look at the wording: never a new series with first and "more than ten yards to gain," which would be true for 1/G to start OT under the NFHS OT procedure.
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Re: is this always true?
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2012, 10:50:12 AM »
Look at the wording: never a new series with first and "more than ten yards to gain," which would be true for 1/G to start OT under the NFHS OT procedure.

So what would be the yard to gain to start A's series if there had been a carry-over of their foul from regulation (Except in Ohio)?

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Re: is this always true?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2012, 10:59:20 AM »
So what would be the yard to gain to start A's series if there had been a carry-over of their foul from regulation (Except in Ohio)?

Ooh, good one. That'll teach me to try to defend an NFHS test answer.  >:(
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Re: is this always true?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2012, 11:43:09 AM »
@Curious - it could be 1st and 5 or 15 or 20 or 25 depending on the accepted foul.

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Re: is this always true?
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2012, 02:56:35 PM »
@Curious - it could be 1st and 5 or 15 or 20 or 25 depending on the accepted foul.

Exactly my point.  A NEW SERIES Could be 1st and "more than 10" in OT.  See my post of 10/8!