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Any More Rule Changes?
« on: April 23, 2021, 07:05:00 AM »
Does anyone know if there will be anything else coming out besides the low block changes?

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Re: Any More Rule Changes?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2021, 07:47:11 AM »
That's the only rule change this year. Normally we vote on 40-50 proposals per year. This was NOT a normal year and only 8 were proposed with the BBW modification being the only one that passed. As always, there will 3 new POEs but I haven't been advised as to what they will be.

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Re: Any More Rule Changes?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2021, 02:50:05 PM »

Confucius say: The three POE's from 2020 will remain the POE's for 2021,  however, they will be enhanced, clarified and expanded upon!!!

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Re: Any More Rule Changes?
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2021, 07:06:41 AM »
That's the only rule change this year. Normally we vote on 40-50 proposals per year. This was NOT a normal year and only 8 were proposed with the BBW modification being the only one that passed. As always, there will 3 new POEs but I haven't been advised as to what they will be.

How about editorial changes?  Seems like this would have been a good year to clean up a lot of the errors and ambiguities in the books.

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Re: Any More Rule Changes?
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2021, 09:40:04 AM »
How about editorial changes?  Seems like this would have been a good year to clean up a lot of the errors and ambiguities in the books.
The Editorial Committee handles editorial changes and am not on or privy to that.

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Re: Any More Rule Changes?
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2021, 11:48:25 AM »
How about editorial changes?  Seems like this would have been a good year to clean up a lot of the errors and ambiguities in the books.

Can you provide an error or ambiguity example?
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Re: Any More Rule Changes?
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2021, 11:47:32 AM »
 This may fall under the term ambiguous: This was tossed around last year here, 6-2-5. The right of R to take the (ball at spot) of first touching by K is canceled if R touches the kick and thereafter during the down commits a foul or if the penalty is accepted for any foul committed during the down.
First of all, ball at spot is terrible English. Secondly and primarily, what if there is an accepted penalty for sideline with contact interference, (9-4-8) or some other penalty treated as a  dead ball foul (unsportsmanlike)? The rule states ANY. Somehow fouls during the down treated as dead ball fouls need to be excluded. Please excuse my English!!!

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Re: Any More Rule Changes?
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2021, 03:50:47 PM »
This may fall under the term ambiguous: This was tossed around last year here, 6-2-5. The right of R to take the (ball at spot) of first touching by K is canceled if R touches the kick and thereafter during the down commits a foul or if the penalty is accepted for any foul committed during the down.
First of all, ball at spot is terrible English. Secondly and primarily, what if there is an accepted penalty for sideline with contact interference, (9-4-8) or some other penalty treated as a  dead ball foul (unsportsmanlike)? The rule states ANY. Somehow fouls during the down treated as dead ball fouls need to be excluded. Please excuse my English!!!

NFHS 6-2-5 states, "The right of R to take the ball at the spot of first touching by K is cancelled if R touches the kick and thereafter during the down commits a foul or if the penalty is accepted for any foul committed during the down.", suggesting the reference is to "live ball fouls", alone.

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Re: Any More Rule Changes?
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 04:01:39 PM »
That's the only rule change this year. Normally we vote on 40-50 proposals per year. This was NOT a normal year and only 8 were proposed with the BBW modification being the only one that passed. As always, there will 3 new POEs but I haven't been advised as to what they will be.

Guys:
Here is a link to the POEs posted on the GHSA web site.  I do not know if they match the NFHS POEs. 

https://www.ghsa.net/2021-football-season-points-emphasis-details
 

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Re: Any More Rule Changes?
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 08:05:58 PM »
This may fall under the term ambiguous: This was tossed around last year here, 6-2-5. The right of R to take the (ball at spot) of first touching by K is canceled if R touches the kick and thereafter during the down commits a foul or if the penalty is accepted for any foul committed during the down.
First of all, ball at spot is terrible English. Secondly and primarily, what if there is an accepted penalty for sideline with contact interference, (9-4-8) or some other penalty treated as a  dead ball foul (unsportsmanlike)? The rule states ANY. Somehow fouls during the down treated as dead ball fouls need to be excluded. Please excuse my English!!!
Iím not sure these fouls need to be excluded. R still has the opportunity to decide whether to take the ball at the spot of first touching or the penalty, whichever is better, same as with any old ordinary live ball foul.


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Re: Any More Rule Changes?
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 08:26:13 PM »
Guys:
Here is a link to the POEs posted on the GHSA web site.  I do not know if they match the NFHS POEs. 

https://www.ghsa.net/2021-football-season-points-emphasis-details

Thank you for the link to the 2021 NFHS POE details.  I don't see anything dramatically new in the 2021 comments.  They simply underscore what has, or at least has long been effective procedures, but serve to codify what have been somewhat common misbehaviors  that been considered consequential as determined by the severity of, and specific situation related to each infraction, as determined by the covering official.

Football remains a hotly contested physical challenge that MUST remain subject to overall sportsmanship, civility and respect among ALL participants, in all circumstances worthy of periodic reminders.