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ElvisLives:
If anyone out there will be in a high level NCAA meeting (especially if Shaw is present) where the 2026 NCAA Rules changes will be discussed, when they talk about the change to the Scrimmage Kick Formation numbering exceptions, please get confirmation that the intent is to require that there be two linemen adjacent to the snapper, ON EACH SIDE OF THE SNAPPER. Grammatically, the current word “either” can mean “both” sides, but it can also mean “one side or the other,” and not necessarily BOTH. I HOPE the intent is to require two linemen on EACH side (both sides) of the snapper. (If so, “each” is a much better word.”)

And then let us know.

Snapper:
Here you go.

I don't see these posted on RefQuest yet.  But my boss passed these along to us this evening.  Shaw addresses both the new scrimmage kick numbering exceptions and the new kick after a fair catch.

For me, they are overall quite helpful.

bctgp:
Thank you!

ElvisLives:
Yay! There you go. So, now we know positively that Team A must have two adjacent linemen on EACH (both) sides of the snapper to qualify as a SKF, and all 5 of those players are ineligible by position. Works for me.

And we now know that a Fair Catch Kick is nearly a Kickoff to start the down (but has to be a field goal place kick with a holder, or a drop kick). The alignment/formation for both teams is the same. The game clock starts on the kick. After that, the down is treated as a scrimmage kick, including the next down if it fails to score, and the kicked ball is untouched by Team B (i.e., B-20, if dead beyond the B-20, or previous spot if dead behind the B-20).

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dammitbobby:
On the scrimmage kick numbering exceptions:

That's interesting that the snapper's hands don't matter now - position is established when he takes his position, i.e., lines up over the ball. There will be coaches who are going to try to take advantage of this change and get cute trying to move players around, and won't realize that 'hands on the ball' isn't a criteria anymore. I do wish they'd clarify in the rule language that taking his position means just that - not hands on the ball (it's in the AR). So as I read AR 1, as soon as he is lined up, no movement, no motion (of the 2x2 personnel). I'm not sure I understand why this is a live-ball foul, I'm not sure how, if they can't move, and they do, that it isn't an immediate foul? How can they remedy that (moving prior to the snap) when they're not allowed to?

So, as I am visualizing this, for a swinging gate, we have to make a mental note of the numbers and make sure we have 5 lineman. If there are not 5 lineman = no swinging gate is legal, since the linemen can't move once the center has taken his position. From AR 5, they can line up this way, they just can't shift into a swinging gate (without 5 numbered 50-79).

Anything I am missing?

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