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Title: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: ElvisLives on March 12, 2020, 11:18:26 AM
...if this Coronavirus crisis will extend into football season, and what impact it could have.  Anything from no effect, to possibly no season at all.  Frickin' bats...
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Grant - AR on March 12, 2020, 01:21:59 PM
...if this Coronavirus crisis will extend into football season, and what impact it could have.  Anything from no effect, to possibly no season at all.  Frickin' bats...

As much as I love football, if it lasts that long, we have much bigger problems than no football this fall.  Anarchy will reign!
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Kalle on March 12, 2020, 02:23:45 PM
As much as I love football, if it lasts that long, we have much bigger problems than no football this fall.  Anarchy will reign!

Looking at the situation in China it seems that the main infection blows over in a month or two, so I'm really surprised if this affects the US season. It does affect us here in Finland, though, as our season starts in May and today the government banned all 500+ audience events and seriously recommends cancelling even smaller events until end of May...
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: AlUpstateNY on March 12, 2020, 03:29:01 PM
Late August is a LONG way away, and such a decision might better wait until considering the ACTUAL situation, in hand, a lot closer to that date.  Many of the events currently being cancelled, or restricted are happening at INDOOR venues, whereas football is played outdoors.  However, the situation and risk at the time should determine the corrective means considered necessary.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: js in sc on March 12, 2020, 03:51:01 PM
Late August is a LONG way away, and such a decision might better wait until considering the ACTUAL situation, in hand, a lot closer to that date.  Many of the events currently being cancelled, or restricted are happening at INDOOR venues, whereas football is played outdoors.  However, the situation and risk at the time should determine the corrective means considered necessary.
So is baseball and soccer.  Be that as it may, hopefully warmer weather will get rid of it.  Should have a vaccine by Fall.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: JasonTX on March 12, 2020, 05:35:37 PM
I just can't wrap my head around people hoarding all the toilet paper.  My household has about a 1 week supply and then we may have to resort to campstyle wiping.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Etref on March 12, 2020, 10:46:50 PM
Be more woodsman and use leaves or a dollar!

Don’t be like the Aggie though, he was in the woods with no paper, his friend told him to use a dollar. Came out covered in poo!

Friend ask him what happened? Aggie said,” you ever try to wipe with 3 quarters 2 dimes and a nickel?”
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: ElvisLives on March 13, 2020, 06:47:26 AM
Be more woodsman and use leaves or a dollar!
Don’t be like the Aggie though, he was in the woods with no paper, his friend told him to use a dollar. Came out covered in poo!
Friend ask him what happened? Aggie said,” you ever try to wipe with 3 quarters 2 dimes and a nickel?”

I'm impressed that an Aggie knew that "3 quarters 2 dimes and a nickel" equaled one dollar.
I've always liked this one:  Do you know how to drive an Aggie crazy?  Put him in a round room and tell him there is a nickel in the corner.

But we digress.

More seriously, there are so many serious issues these righteous, but problematic, program/event disruptions/cancellations are creating.  How about the NCAA basketball players - particularly seniors (well, the ones that are left, anyway) that have lost opportunity to win a national championship and get major exposure toward an NBA career?  Will this affect eligibility at all? (Probably not, since they got in a full regular season, but a question the NCAA may need to address.)  But, what other sports are in progress that will/may get affected?  Like baseball.  A freshman/sophomore/junior baseball pitcher may be counting on getting his full slate of starts in preparation for the MLB draft.  Will he want to try to get his eligibility extended?  Hockey players?  Track? Golf?  And those aren't even really serious issues, when compared to people in the work force that may get laid off, or have their work hours/opportunities greatly reduced.
And then there is the overall economy as a whole.  I know my investments are taking a huge hit right now, but they are long-term things that I fully believe will recover.  But, with oil prices already dropping due to the price war being waged between middle eastern oil producers and Russia, this economic slow-down will, undoubtedly, cut into domestic production, which drives so, so much of Texas' economy, in particular.  Oilfield workers will be furloughed or laid off.  Think of all of those stadium/arena employees that suddenly don't have anything to do for a while.

I don't have any good answers.  But let's all do what we can to make this episode in American (world?) history as brief as possible.  Wash - and DRY - your hands. Thoroughly. Often. Try not to touch other people any more than necessary.  Don't sneeze or cough into open air (elbow, handkerchief, tissue, etc.).  Don't share food or drinks.  If you receive something from somebody - change, a book, a gift, merchandise in a store - take a moment to wipe them off with something (wash them, if possible), and then wash your hands.

These are extreme circumstances, which require extreme actions. For the overall good of the country, these disruptions/cancellations and personal hygiene steps are necessary.

Let's do our part.

Robert 
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: HLinNC on March 13, 2020, 08:05:06 AM
The NCHSAA has suspended all athletic events until 4/6/20, effective at midnight tonight.  I have a private school softball game scheduled for this afternoon that will probably get whacked due to the ever present rain we've had so far.  I have worked one HS SB scrimmage to date.  Everything else I've been scheduled for has been washed out and now this.

My son, who is currently home from college on spring break, just got another week extended next week and then switches to on-line classes.

What happens when we all learn that we can really do without classrooms and team sports? 
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: JasonTX on March 13, 2020, 12:59:32 PM
I just had 2 baseball games cancel for today.

Added:  TAPPS (private schools in Texas) postponed all competition till April 12.   UIL  (Public School ) have postponed till March 29.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: bama_stripes on March 14, 2020, 07:14:09 AM
AHSAA has suspended play until April 11.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Ralph Damren on March 14, 2020, 09:48:30 AM
Simple thoughts about crappy things......,.

In my daze of youth , we used to visit Aunt Reba. Aunt Reba owned a farm. The farm had an outhouse. The outhouse had a thick Sears & Roebuck Catalog and a bucket of corn cobs. I lived to tell about it !

The first Coronavirus case appeared in Maine on Thursday. Our state has already cancelled the remainder of the school year for all state universities, and many of the private colleges have followed suit. The students are told that their courses can be taken on line.....SURE  ;) . The Maine Principals' Association has postponed tryouts & practice for spring sports until the end of April and canceled any event aimed at drawing a large crowd. I was scheduled to speak at a football coaches clinic yesterday. That was cancelled. I'm as disappointed as many of you with no March Madness, Celtics & Bruins heading into post-season, UMaine ice hockey hosting a post-season playoff for the first time in 10 years and UMaine women's basketball playing for the league championship.

We all love sports, be we need to realize that sports are entertainment. Many may feel that our national/state/local reaction is an over-kill. I feel it is being proactive and agree with Carol, that if this is still a problem come football season, cancelled games will be the least of our problems. After all, Sears & Roebuck no longer publishes a catalog and corn cobs are no longer treasured as much as they were in that bygone era.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: TampaSteve on March 16, 2020, 07:01:23 PM
this is a fascinating topic.
First, influenza affects 100x more than corona...but we have a vaccene for influenza virus, not corona.
Second: the Chinese government isnt the most transparent in the world, nor is Vietnam government (china neighbors to the south). - so this may be bigger than advertised.
Third: N1H1, aka swine, circa 2009, was very much worse than this. Thus, is it possible in today's media that there's different tactics (hype) today than we saw in 2009?

It's a different world we're in.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: AlUpstateNY on March 16, 2020, 09:50:24 PM
Do you think the expansion to a 24 hour news cycle, at least a Bazillion more "news" sources and additional  means of delivering what now passes for "news", has had something to do with the quality of what we receive?
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: js in sc on March 16, 2020, 10:15:53 PM
Do you think the expansion to a 24 hour news cycle, at least a Bazillion more "news" sources and additional  means of delivering what now passes for "news", has had something to do with the quality of what we receive?
That and the fact the more the media scares people, the more they will tune in to hear them pontificate about topics they know nothing about.  More viewers, more ad revenue.  And the more they can blame the President.  Turn off the "news" and read a book.  Rule book would be nice.  yEs:
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: ElvisLives on March 17, 2020, 10:15:28 AM
Since the 'neutral' days of Huntley-Brinkley, I have watched NBC Nightly News.  Even though I know they have turned decidedly liberal and politically correct.  I almost always watch the full half-hour.  Yesterday, however, after 15 minutes of gloom, doom, finger pointing, and calls for even more federal control on our lives, I got up and went to do something constructive.
If we all just use good hygiene and avoid big crowds for a while, we'll be alright.  No need to be so frickin' dramatic.
Go to work.  Or, at least go do something productive or helpful.  Stop waiting for handouts.  Take care of yourself.

Robert
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Ralph Damren on March 18, 2020, 01:45:32 PM
Events cancelled , schools closed , restaurants and banks limited to drive-thru only; every corner of our country is affected. While the cronoavirus isn't deadly like the black plague or small pox, crippling like polio or disfiguring like leporisy ; it is dangerous to us older people or ones with medical issues (I'm 74 and diabetic). A stat I heard yesterday (Fox News not fake news) was : death rate of coronavirus is 0.7% , of that 0.7%, 90% are either over 80 or with medical issues. It is said to be very contagious and without any current vaccine , dangerous to that high risk group.

In my daze of youth, my mother and grandmother gave my siblings and I strong instructions . I had forgotten them until recently.....

"DON'T JUST RUN WATER OVER YOUR HANDS, RUB THEM HARD UNTIL IT HURTS WITH SOAP AND HOT WATER !"
I found a use for my ReadyRef -which had retired with the addition of the back judge - as it now sits next to the bathroom sink and scrub hard until the 5" warning beeps.

"DON'T TOUCH YOUR FACE WHILE RIDING IN A CAR, FOR IF WE HIT A RUT, YOU MAY.......
  DRIVE YOUR FINGER INTO YOUR BRAIN IF PICKING YOUR NOSE; POKE OUT YOUR  EYE IF RUBBING IT; BITE THE END OF YOUR FINGER OFF IF CHEWING YOUR NAILS !"
It is a challenge not to touch your face, but these are good health habits to develop and are becoming easier each day. They say it takes  a month to develop a habit, either good or bad. Hopefully these will become automatic after then.

Thank all of you that are younger or healthier than me, for following the suggestions we are peppered with each day. If you have any suggestions that may help any of us please share.

I have a hard job staying serious thru these posts, so I wish to make the following observation......

Where everyone is staying at home without any sports to watch, in nine months a boom of babies will be born. Will we call them :THE CORONIALS ?

                                                                 That's my rant of the day,
                                                                         Ralph
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: ElvisLives on March 18, 2020, 03:10:14 PM
Coronials...I like it.  Let's just hope the country still bears some resemblance to the democracy based on free enterprise that we still have today, when they reach adulthood.  Some people would take it all away, so only an elite few could even have the possibility of more than basic comfort. After all, they know what's best for us (don't they?).

Let's all calm down and just lives our lives.  Just don't go kissin' strangers.

Robert

Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: JasonTX on March 18, 2020, 05:37:58 PM
I bet we won't be seeing all those people at the grocery store helping themselves to sampling the grapes anymore.  On another note, I keep waiting on the TV to break through with that emergency broadcast system message, letting us know this has all been a test and that we could resume normal life.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: bama_stripes on March 19, 2020, 06:18:18 AM
When they get to middle-school football playing age, we can call them “Quaranteenagers.”
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Punter on March 22, 2020, 10:40:21 AM
It really upsets me when I see anyone say that Fox News is the only news that is not “fake.”  Fox is the most slanted news of any of the outlets.  It borders on propaganda, and being an arm of the state.  I try to watch to see the perspective of the “right” but can only take it for a few minutes.  They definitely are the fakest of the fake news.  That being said CNN and MSNBC are almost the same for the left.  The only really news out there is probably   PBS.

All you have to see is how Fox started out the same as the President saying the Corona virus was a hoax and no big deal.  As the President changed his stance so did Fox.  Don’t fool yourself into believing Fox is “fair and balanced.”  They are surely not.  The best evidence is the following:

1.  Judge Peirero (I probably did not spell that right)
2.  Hannity
3.  Carlson

If you really believe these people report unbiased fair news, I have a bridge to sell you.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: JasonTX on March 22, 2020, 03:06:51 PM
It really upsets me when I see anyone say that Fox News is the only news that is not “fake.”  Fox is the most slanted news of any of the outlets.  It borders on propaganda, and being an arm of the state.  I try to watch to see the perspective of the “right” but can only take it for a few minutes.  They definitely are the fakest of the fake news.  That being said CNN and MSNBC are almost the same for the left.  The only really news out there is probably   PBS.

All you have to see is how Fox started out the same as the President saying the Corona virus was a hoax and no big deal.  As the President changed his stance so did Fox.  Don’t fool yourself into believing Fox is “fair and balanced.”  They are surely not.  The best evidence is the following:

1.  Judge Peirero (I probably did not spell that right)
2.  Hannity
3.  Carlson

If you really believe these people report unbiased fair news, I have a bridge to sell you.
Sort of like when Trump got attacked when he issued the travel ban.  Too bad the others were so focused on impeachment instead of helping.  The fact is nobody knew how bad this was.  It has apparently progressively gotten worse.   At the time, it wasn't a big deal but it soon changed as did Trump.   We are human.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Punter on March 22, 2020, 03:21:02 PM
You are trying to pivot. My post was not about Trump but rather about Fox being “fake” and slanted to whatever Trump says.

As far as your post, this is one heck of a mistake for the leader of our country. If he took it seriously from the beginning, maybe the entire country would not be shut down, and the markets crashing.  This is not just a little “mistake,” it is a disaster.  Trump said the Corona virus was hoax (come on get real that is much more than a mistake and definitely shows a lack of leadership on the most dangerous issue facing our country and economy probably since the Great Depression). He never takes responsibility for anything it is always someone else’s fault.  Whatever happened to the “buck stops here”. He has 0 leadership abilities.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: js in sc on March 22, 2020, 03:44:30 PM
You are trying to pivot. My post was not about Trump but rather about Fox being “fake” and slanted to whatever Trump says.

As far as your post, this is one heck of a mistake for the leader of our country. If he took it seriously from the beginning, maybe the entire country would not be shut down, and the markets crashing.  This is not just a little “mistake,” it is a disaster.  Trump said the Corona virus was hoax (come on get real that is much more than a mistake and definitely shows a lack of leadership on the most dangerous issue facing our country and economy probably since the Great Depression). He never takes responsibility for anything it is always someone else’s fault.  Whatever happened to the “buck stops here”. He has 0 leadership abilities.
Can you provide a source that he called it a hoax, not an un-named source but a quote from him.  I have not heard that before.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Punter on March 22, 2020, 03:51:25 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/28/trump-calls-coronavirus-outbreak-a-hoax-and-links-it-to-immigration-at-rally


https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0PDsBmVz3deposAFWlx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTEydWgzbnBlBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMzBHZ0aWQDQjc1NjZfMQRzZWMDc3I-/RV=2/RE=1584939030/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.nbcnews.com%2fpolitics%2fdonald-trump%2ftrump-calls-coronavirus-democrats-new-hoax-n1145721/RK=2/RS=f9IQgNXR7Y_IDwvDO47.CskRz9w-

Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: JasonTX on March 22, 2020, 04:05:09 PM
You are trying to pivot. My post was not about Trump but rather about Fox being “fake” and slanted to whatever Trump says.

As far as your post, this is one heck of a mistake for the leader of our country. If he took it seriously from the beginning, maybe the entire country would not be shut down, and the markets crashing.  This is not just a little “mistake,” it is a disaster.  Trump said the Corona virus was hoax (come on get real that is much more than a mistake and definitely shows a lack of leadership on the most dangerous issue facing our country and economy probably since the Great Depression). He never takes responsibility for anything it is always someone else’s fault.  Whatever happened to the “buck stops here”. He has 0 leadership abilities.

He took it serious.  He was told he was overreacting when he issued the travel ban.  During the impeachment he was accused of trying to distract the public away from the impeachment.  When China had one person infected, nobody knew that it was anything more than a common flu.  The bottom line is, Trump can't do anything right in your eyes.  It doesn't matter what his response was or will be, he will always be criticized.   In football officiating we have a rule book to get us out of most any challenge we face on the field.   Trump is not afforded a step by step book for this.  Now go troll somewhere else.  I'm done with you.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Punter on March 22, 2020, 04:25:53 PM
It is funny how some people cannot look at the President with any hint of criticism. They ask for sources, and when they are provided, they resort to using the logical fallacy of ad hominem attacks.

As an aside, it was never part of my original discussion, I agree with the travel restrictions that were placed on China.  That really has nothing to do with my original points though.

The original statement regarding Fox News strands. They are in no way real news.  They are ‘Fake news” and slanted to whatever the administration says.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Etref on March 23, 2020, 08:30:06 AM
Let’s keep politics out of this or this one will be shut down
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Ralph Damren on March 23, 2020, 12:40:32 PM
Many Type A personalities have strong opinions.....

Many sports officials are Type A personalities.......

Many strong opinions deal with politics......

I strongly enjoy this website as ,to me, it puts the worries of the world behind and discusses our mutual love of football.

Carol did the right thing by moving this into the non-football arena .
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: riffraft on March 23, 2020, 01:41:23 PM
Let’s keep politics out of this or this one will be shut down

Better bet is to just shut it down now. It is hard for some of us to keep our mouths shut (well fingers off the keyboards)
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: TxSkyBolt on March 24, 2020, 07:32:33 PM
You are trying to pivot. My post was not about Trump but rather about Fox being “fake” and slanted to whatever Trump says.

As far as your post, this is one heck of a mistake for the leader of our country. If he took it seriously from the beginning, maybe the entire country would not be shut down, and the markets crashing.  This is not just a little “mistake,” it is a disaster.  Trump said the Corona virus was hoax (come on get real that is much more than a mistake and definitely shows a lack of leadership on the most dangerous issue facing our country and economy probably since the Great Depression). He never takes responsibility for anything it is always someone else’s fault.  Whatever happened to the “buck stops here”. He has 0 leadership abilities.
Do some research before spouting leftist talking points. At no time did the president ever call Covid-19 a hoax. During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, the President likened the Democrats' criticism of his administration's response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying "this is their new hoax."


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Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Ralph Damren on March 25, 2020, 07:34:02 AM
AHH....remembering to the daze of my youth, when political debates were often phrased with : " My HONORED opponent feels that way, but I feel...." . Today it seems more like : " I if you think I'm a louse, my opponent is even a bigger one  >:( ".
 
Be ye Democrat, GOP, Whig or whatever ; we are all Americans. In football talk , the offensive unit and defensive unit are on the same team just trying to win a different way. While I usually vote more GOP than Democrat, I consider myself an American first. In my lifetime I've seen Maine elect two I - governors and a current I - US Senator. In the recent impeachment trial, Congressman Jared Golden (D-ME) was the only one to cross party lines and vote nay on one of the articles. On the Senate side, Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) was the only one to cross party lines and vote yay to hear witnesses. They both voted with their hearts and will get my vote this Fall.

These are trying days for all of us. Let us all be Americans and try to stay positive and support our leaders in Congress, the White House, Governorship, State House or Mayor. We stand a much better chance of coming out of this quicker if we all stand togather , than to just waive our fingers at each other.

                                                                                                             tiphat:
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: riffraft on March 25, 2020, 09:06:07 AM
Better bet is to just shut it down now. It is hard for some of us to keep our mouths shut (well fingers off the keyboards)

BTW I am talking about myself
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Grant - AR on March 25, 2020, 09:46:44 AM
AHH....remembering to the daze of my youth, when political debates were often phrased with : " My HONORED opponent feels that way, but I feel...." . Today it seems more like : " I if you think I'm a louse, my opponent is even a bigger one  >:( ".
 
Be ye Democrat, GOP, Whig or whatever ; we are all Americans. In football talk , the offensive unit and defensive unit are on the same team just trying to win a different way. While I usually vote more GOP than Democrat, I consider myself an American first. In my lifetime I've seen Maine elect two I - governors and a current I - US Senator. In the recent impeachment trial, Congressman Jared Golden (D-ME) was the only one to cross party lines and vote nay on one of the articles. On the Senate side, Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) was the only one to cross party lines and vote yay to hear witnesses. They both voted with their hearts and will get my vote this Fall.

These are trying days for all of us. Let us all be Americans and try to stay positive and support our leaders in Congress, the White House, Governorship, State House or Mayor. We stand a much better chance of coming out of this quicker if we all stand togather , than to just waive our fingers at each other.

                                                                                                             tiphat:

Well said, Ralph.  I think the vast majority of Americans feel the same way.  Unfortunately, it's the loud, crazy ones with the wildest ideas (on both sides) that seem to always make it on TV.  I guess that brings in viewers and sells ads. 
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Punter on March 28, 2020, 07:07:40 AM
The guy speaks for himself.  No need for “leftist talking points.”

https://youtu.be/mTjTaR748eg

https://youtu.be/HvE9hCZ-jaU
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: JasonTX on March 28, 2020, 12:58:40 PM
The guy speaks for himself.  No need for “leftist talking points.”

https://youtu.be/mTjTaR748eg

https://youtu.be/HvE9hCZ-jaU

Excellent leadership.   He evolved with the problem.  At 15 cases it wasn't that big and nobody knew how big it would get.  But Trump took a bold step and issued a travel ban from China.  He was attacked and called a racist and xenophobe.   That move is now being highlighted as saving thousands of lives on top of what we are now seeing.  This is a logistical nightmare like we have never seen but this President is bringing out the best in our country like we have never seen before. 
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Punter on March 28, 2020, 04:30:42 PM
The travel ban is the only thing he got right. Which by the way is his first answer for every issue, close the border, build a wall, etc.

Other than that, He was saying that the virus was no big deal.  We should have started preparing way back then and building ventilators.  Even today, when asked about these issues, he blames the “previous administration.”  He has been in office over 3 years so he owns this.   Leaders take responsibility, and do not pass the blame to others. Whatever happened to “the buck stops here?”  Trump a leader? Not so much.  He is currently -playing catch up, and people are losing their life because of it.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: chaoslord on March 29, 2020, 10:03:31 PM
Long time lurker, gonna jump in here and say I think you are both wrong!

Punter, President Trump did not say it was a hoax. I do not like his dishonesty in general, but he did not do that and it's wrong to say that he did.

JasonTX, the idea that "At 15 cases it wasn't that big and nobody knew how big it would get" is ridiculous. By the time it was at 15 cases here it was very clear what was coming and, as the chief executive, he should have been taking it more seriously rather than trying to downplay it by saying it was under control or that it was going to disappear because it was clear that it wasn't.
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My state has been very slow in responding in general (we do not have any sort of shelter in place order or anything like that yet), and from the Athletics side we have not formally shut down the spring sports entirely yet. I know they are just trying to hold out hope that things will turn around, but I wish they would pull the trigger already. If we come back when they are hoping to, we'll get two weeks and then baseball/softball regionals start and state track, and three weeks and state soccer/baseball/softball playoffs. There's just no time to do it. I feel terrible for the seniors, I really do, but I think the false hope that maybe we can come back is going to lead to more disappointment than if they just pulled the band-aid off now.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: bbeagle on July 21, 2020, 05:57:11 AM
As much as I love football, if it lasts that long, we have much bigger problems than no football this fall.  Anarchy will reign!

Oddly enough, we never thought about the situation we are in now.

Anarchy is the REASON we are having no football in the fall. If people would have worn masks in May, June, July, we would be having football in the fall.... but people were anarchists and now, sadly, we can't have good things.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Grant - AR on July 21, 2020, 09:58:26 AM
Oddly enough, we never thought about the situation we are in now.

Anarchy is the REASON we are having no football in the fall. If people would have worn masks in May, June, July, we would be having football in the fall.... but people were anarchists and now, sadly, we can't have good things.

I looked up the definition of anarchy and the first definition that came up is:

a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority.

I'm not sure if wearing/not wearing a mask falls under that definition (I can see where it might), but I definitely think the riots, destruction, defunding the police, etc. definitely fall under the above definition of anarchy. 
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Ralph Damren on July 21, 2020, 12:04:48 PM
I WEAR MY MASK TO PROTECT  YOU,


                                                                                        IF


                                                                           YOU CARED ABOUT ME YOU WOULD WEAR ONE TOO.
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Ralph Damren on April 08, 2021, 04:41:47 AM
As much as I love football, if it lasts that long, we have much bigger problems than no football this fall.  Anarchy will reign!
I felt the same way, Carol, but somehow we all made it :). This has to be the most challenging year in the history of Planet Earth :( but we humans are creative critters and have somehow managed to adjust. IMHO, the glass is half-full and will be filled to the brim by next football season. I can then put my face-covering in the closet that contains my Davy Crockett hat, Nero jacket and disco-shoes :puke:....

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Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Grant - AR on April 08, 2021, 09:06:04 AM
I felt the same way, Carol, but somehow we all made it :). This has to be the most challenging year in the history of Planet Earth :( but we humans are creative critters and have somehow managed to adjust. IMHO, the glass is half-full and will be filled to the brim by next football season. I can then put my face-covering in the closet that contains my Davy Crockett hat, Nero jacket and disco-shoes :puke:....

This past year has definitely been a challenge.  It's not completely over yet, but there's a light at the end of the tunnel...and it's not a train.  Hopefully very soon, everything will return to normal.  Last football season was not normal in many ways, but I was lucky enough to work almost as many games as previous years.  I only had a couple that were cancelled (unfortunately, one of them was my last and biggest game of the year so the end of the season was somewhat of a let down). 

It was interesting to go back and read this thread again.  Many of us speculated on what would happen, and almost all of us were wrong.   ;D  I'm glad we have a better track record at getting things right on the football field. 

As far as politics go, I hope the folks in Washington DC will figure out how to come together for the country.  If not, I say we (50 states) secede from DC and start over.   :patrioticon: FlAg1
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: JasonTX on April 08, 2021, 06:46:39 PM

As far as politics go, I hope the folks in Washington DC will figure out how to come together for the country.  If not, I say we (50 states) secede from DC and start over.   :patrioticon: FlAg1

We did that a long time ago in Texas.   aWaRd
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: Ralph Damren on April 09, 2021, 05:18:44 AM
We did that a long time ago in Texas.   aWaRd
Jason, when Texas applied for statehood wasn't there a provision that someday they could be split into 5 separate states if they so chose ? If so, that would be a surefire way of stacking the senate  8] 8] 8] 8] 8] !
Title: Re: Can't help but wonder...
Post by: ElvisLives on April 09, 2021, 08:51:41 AM
Jason, when Texas applied for statehood wasn't there a provision that someday they could be split into 5 separate states if they so chose ? If so, that would be a surefire way of stacking the senate  8] 8] 8] 8] 8] !

Indeed, the 1845 Annexation Agreement contains language that would permit Texas to create 4 additional states within its boundaries, for a total of 5 states. That may sound tempting, but we'd still be getting the lives sucked out of us by the liberals in CA, NY, MI, WI, on and on...
Let's just secede, and formally create our own CONSERVATIVE country. Close the borders - ALL OF THEM - and open up oil drilling, while exploring all other energy production technologies (particularly hydrogen). We have everything we need. Land, water, airports, seaports, workforce, natural resources, major universities, (but we'd run off the liberal educators), manufacturing of ALL kinds - you name it, we got it (well, maybe not Hawaiian-esque tropical jungle, but, eh, you can't have everything, I guess). Heck, if we negotiate right, we could have B-1s, F-16s, nukes, M1A1s - heck there's even carrier in Corpus Christi. Right-to-work. At-will employment. A few things we'd need to do constitutionally differently than the USA, like birth-right citizenship only to children born to married Texas citizens. Earned citizenship with minimum 5 years residence and self-sufficiency, read/understand English. Welfare only to citizens that CAN'T work. Voting only for registered, non-felon citizens - in-person only, with proof of registration and identity required, but with 7-day voting window for everybody, and hard-ballot voting only (computers can be used for tallying, but the votes must be hard-ballots). A single federal income tax fixed constitutionally from 5% to 10% (varies with income), with no credits, deductions, exemptions, etc. Period. You make X, you pay Y.
Elected federal officials get paid the average individual income for all citizens.
I could go on for hours.