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Offline southarkumpire

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coaches
« on: October 13, 2010, 02:30:29 PM »
http://www.fearlessfriday.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=106326.0

Thought this might be an interesting discussion over here. Picked it up on another board.

KB

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Re: coaches
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2010, 04:00:39 AM »
Behaviour like that described in the first post has caused me to call it quits.

Offline bama_stripes

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Re: coaches
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2010, 07:17:31 AM »
In my experience, young coaches who resort to hollering & cussing at their players (as well as at us) rarely make it to the next level.  It's the guys that can manage people, as well as teach the game, that tend to be successful.

Come to think of it, that holds true for officials as well.

Offline lawdog

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Re: coaches
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2010, 08:56:13 AM »
Its just a reflection of the decay in our society.  Used to be this country taught and expected respect and relatively decent behavior.  Now we have the "jackass", "Punked" and "Real World" mentality perpetuated throughout...  What do we expect to happen when we don't teach people to behave decently anywhere else, we shouldn't expect a magic transformation once they step on the field...

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Re: coaches
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2010, 09:39:54 AM »
I'll actually agree with lawdog on this one - with this "pepsi generation" society we are now having to deal with, bad behavior has been rewarded - (Kardasian; Paris Hilton; Brett Favre - oh, sorry about that one) - These young cowboy coaches feel the more of an BUTT they make of themselves the better they will be noticed.  It's pathetic. 

GoGoGo

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Re: coaches
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2010, 06:03:24 AM »
I will second what lawdog and cooter said.

LarryW60

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Re: coaches
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2010, 10:06:54 AM »
Had a Freshman/JV set last night and the maturity level of the coaches was proportional to the level at which they were coaching.  The Freshmen coaches were easily the most unruly of the two groups.  I had one Freshmen assistant who got to the point where I thought he was going to come after me when I wouldn't call what he wanted.  As an example of things he wanted: he wanted a facemask call when the runner was brought down by the jersey over the shoulderpad... on the far side of the field, natch. ::)

Offline blindref757

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Re: coaches
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2010, 07:19:45 AM »
Strange.  The only time I've had a coach get riled up this year in a sub-varsity game was when we called a TD back for an illegal shift in an 8th grade game.  The QB was the varsity coach's kid...and it was the varsity coach who was screaming, hollering, and calling us every thing despicable under the sun!.

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Re: coaches
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2010, 03:29:52 PM »
Strange.  The only time I've had a coach get riled up this year in a sub-varsity game was when we called a TD back for an illegal shift in an 8th grade game.  The QB was the varsity coach's kid...and it was the varsity coach who was screaming, hollering, and calling us every thing despicable under the sun!.
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Had an interesting game today. Visiting coach got out of hand, visiting trainer used an f-bomb on an official while tending to an injured player (!) and earned a free trip to the stands. Then, apparently, someone dropped a racial slur on a visiting team player (none of us heard it.). The accused, a captain and person of ethnicity, wandered over to the visiting coach, and said it wasn't him, but he'd find the guy who said the unpleasant word ... and the captains on both sides TOOK CONTROL and brought the game back on line.

saofficial(aust)

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Re: coaches
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2010, 09:53:51 PM »
Coaches coach, officials officiate, players play and fans cheer. What is so hard to know what your job is?
If a coach wanted to be on my case so much about calls then why not ask if you can send in the next play? If a coach on the sideline wants to go on and on sending me nuts will he pay for my counselling sessions or compensate me for time off work because I have a brain injury from his whinging and whining? Prob not. This is my hobby just like it is his and whether he respects me as a person I don't care but the respect to the job in stripes is 100% whether I am ever right or not. If he can't do that then he won't be on the sideline for long as he has a problem according to the rules and code of conduct of the game which he agreed to abide by.
I don't allow those lines to be blurred too much. Sure I will listen at the time but my job is to officiate a safe and fair game within the rules for the players but don't try to be over bearing in my role. The clean up of weekend happenings can then take a whole week to discuss but the game is ongoing and flowing and no time to stop and talk unless head coaches want a conference as per the rules. A quick chat in the middle between plays to soften any problems but the players are to play and the next play will be in ready or not as per the rules.
Some head coaches have realised they are not above the game, some officials have found the same, and they either conform or leave. Administrators discuss with the officials the standards of the game and it is communicated to clubs.
Set a procedure to sort of problems and use them but don't whine on the sideline or you can be further away from the sideline at the request of the official or game administrator. Do the job you volunteered for don't try and do more than what you signed up for.

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Re: coaches
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2010, 08:30:53 AM »
I like that! 

Coach:  Screaming blah blah blah!!!
Ref:  Coach, is your school work comp plan going to pay for psychological counseling after the game?
Coach: No
Ref:  Then either you have to stop on your own, or I'll have to stop you my way because I'm starting to feel a little Mel Gibson coming on!