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Offline NVFOA_Ump

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Couple of Questions From Our "Spring" meeting
« on: February 24, 2021, 07:45:49 PM »
Getting ready for some spring football and came up with 2 questions that generated discussion:

1.  Team A is running the ball and as the ball carrier crosses inside the B25 yard line ball is punched out by the defense and rolls forward and out of bounds at B18 yard line.  What is the Dead Ball spot, succeeding spot, and clock status?

2.  We here in MA will be using mostly 5 man crews in varsity games starting in less than a month.  We will be "moving" the U to the CJ position (12-15 yards behind the LOS "opposite" the R).  Given that there is no RFP whistle and after placing the ball the U now has approximately +/- 20 yards to go to get in position how would your 5 man crew best handle this, especially in a hurry-up mode when A is less than 1 score behind and the clock is running out?
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Offline HLinNC

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Re: Couple of Questions From Our "Spring" meeting
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2021, 08:13:52 PM »
1) B18 yl, PC = :40, GC= on the snap

2) a) Put U back where he belongs.  b) Check with any NFL guys you may know.  I think there is a mechanic where the snapper has to check with the LJ, maybe.  I could also be totally wrong but I thought I read or heard this somewhere.

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Re: Couple of Questions From Our "Spring" meeting
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2021, 09:02:00 AM »
1) B18
2) Have your R's tell the QB's not to snap until the U is behind them.

Offline Patrick E.

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Re: Couple of Questions From Our "Spring" meeting
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2021, 11:47:18 AM »
2.  We here in MA will be using mostly 5 man crews in varsity games starting in less than a month.  We will be "moving" the U to the CJ position (12-15 yards behind the LOS "opposite" the R).  Given that there is no RFP whistle and after placing the ball the U now has approximately +/- 20 yards to go to get in position how would your 5 man crew best handle this, especially in a hurry-up mode when A is less than 1 score behind and the clock is running out?

Could those that have put the U at the CJ position also comment on any adjustment made for ineligible downfield and passes beyond the LOS?

Any adjustments for the PAT such as putting the U under with the BJ?

If the U did not work at the CJ position, was the U given an option to move an additional 2 yards off the ball from his normal position?

Thank you in advance.


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Re: Couple of Questions From Our "Spring" meeting
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2021, 11:55:37 AM »
We are allowing the U to move back deeper.

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Re: Couple of Questions From Our "Spring" meeting
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2021, 03:07:01 PM »
One of the most unique advantages of the traditional positioning of an Umpire, is the placement of a mature enforcement observer in close proximity to an area of extreme competitive contact, and when appropriate, to inject guidance, or even prevention, to mitigate, inappropriate or excessive reaction.  Often the Umpire's presence, in the immediate midst of intense contact serves as a direct means to avert, or minimize, imprudent or emotional, inappropriate, prolonged or excessive responses between competitors.

Subtle, often private observations, or even brief conversations  between Umpires and players can serve to instantly defuse initial inappropriate reactions and prevent their escalation into problems potentially requiring more direct and punitive correction.  An Umpire's value as a subtle, but constant, moderating presence and controlling influence in the midst of chaos, contributes as much, if not more, to the successful operation of a contest, than his proscribed responsibilities and duties.

Not always the case, but as players mature participating at higher levels, a reasonable objective should be less concern and attention necessary related to avoiding potentially immature reactions.
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