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Leading question of the day
« on: December 26, 2024, 01:53:44 PM »
Been out of Internet range for a number of days. Try this:

Extra period number 3, from the B-3. B20 commits a pass interference foul on eligible A88 in B’s end zone (called by the F), and the ball falls incomplete.

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(This question is intentionally leading, with this situation having happened on national TV recently.)


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Re: Leading question of the day
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2024, 04:13:29 PM »
Unless I'm missing the intentionally leading part, this should be 1/G for A at the 2.
 
When the ball is snapped on or inside the Team B 17-yard line and outside the Team B two-yard line, and the spot of the foul is on or inside the two-yard line, the penalty from the previous spot shall place the ball at the two-yard line, first down (A.R. 7-3-8-XIV).

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Re: Leading question of the day
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2024, 04:20:30 PM »
Unless I'm missing the intentionally leading part, this should be 1/G for A at the 2.
 
When the ball is snapped on or inside the Team B 17-yard line and outside the Team B two-yard line, and the spot of the foul is on or inside the two-yard line, the penalty from the previous spot shall place the ball at the two-yard line, first down (A.R. 7-3-8-XIV).

What type of down is being played?

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Re: Leading question of the day
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2024, 04:25:55 PM »
Ahhh.  All plays are considered tries in the 3rd OT, it's not a regular down. So should be 1/G from the 1.5 (half the distance) ) according to 10-2-5-b.

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Re: Leading question of the day
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2024, 04:45:23 PM »
Ahhh.  All plays are considered tries in the 3rd OT, it's not a regular down. So should be 1/G from the 1.5 (half the distance) ) according to 10-2-5-b.

Bingo. A game that went 5 extra periods a few days ago had a DPI in the end zone during the 3rd extra period, and they put the ball at the B-2. Only 1/2 yard difference, but that half yard can make a difference in the down.

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Re: Leading question of the day
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2024, 08:43:34 PM »
If you’re referring to the Hawaii bowl, I’m pretty sure that DPI was on a down snapped from the B-13 after an offensive hold on the previous down.  In that case, the B-2 is the proper enforcement.

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Re: Leading question of the day
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2024, 08:58:36 PM »
If you’re referring to the Hawaii bowl, I’m pretty sure that DPI was on a down snapped from the B-13 after an offensive hold on the previous down.  In that case, the B-2 is the proper enforcement.

Well, I can’t express the shame and embarrassment on my face. Those are, of course, the facts. I was so focused on the fact that they were in the third extra period, that I ignored the true down/distance. No excuse. I will endeavor to be certain I have the true facts in the future.
I will now ask an administrator to remove this entire discussion, since it serves no useful purpose, at this point.


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Re: Leading question of the day
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2024, 09:45:21 PM »
Elvis, for what it's worth, circumstances incorrect or not, I appreciate the mental exercise in arriving at a answer and then validating that in the rule book (even though I should have read the scenario more closely.

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Re: Leading question of the day
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2024, 10:15:59 PM »
I never understood why they made this exception.  Regular play, you put it on the 2.  On a try, you put it at the 1.5 if you're at the 3 yard line.  Why make it inconsistent?

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Re: Leading question of the day
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2024, 03:23:54 AM »
I will now ask an administrator to remove this entire discussion, since it serves no useful purpose, at this point.

Sorry, at least this admin disagrees with you :) Even if this play situation does not reference an actual play situation it still is a good reminder that the single-down possession "series" are tries, as this also applies to fumbles by team A.