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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: golfingref on October 05, 2013, 07:29:42 PM

Title: KCI Razorbacks vs Gators
Post by: golfingref on October 05, 2013, 07:29:42 PM
1:54 left in second quarter. Florida punt returner has ball bounce off his arms and Arkansas player catches the muff. Flag for KCI. No contact made by kicking team. Can someone explain the NCAA rule on KCI?
Title: Re: KCI Razorbacks vs Gators
Post by: Legacy Zebra on October 05, 2013, 08:04:54 PM
Was there a fair catch signal given?
Title: Re: KCI Razorbacks vs Gators
Post by: golfingref on October 05, 2013, 08:07:51 PM
Yes.What I am hearing is the receiver must be given the opportunity to complete the catch even if he hobbled it. That differs from Federation rule on fair catch.
Title: Re: KCI Razorbacks vs Gators
Post by: Rulesman on October 05, 2013, 09:32:03 PM
...the receiver must be given the opportunity to complete the catch...
That is correct. Off the top of my head - Rule 6-4-1.
Title: Re: KCI Razorbacks vs Gators
Post by: Legacy Zebra on October 05, 2013, 09:37:16 PM
That is correct. Off the top of my head - Rule 6-4-1.
Close, 6-5-1b. 6-4 is Opportunity to Catch a kick, but this particular play is covered by 6-5, Fair Catch.
Title: Re: KCI Razorbacks vs Gators
Post by: InsideTheStripes on October 05, 2013, 11:04:50 PM

http://player.vimeo.com/video/76244017

Great call.  You get a second bite at the apple in the NCAA code (6-5-1-b).
Title: Re: KCI Razorbacks vs Gators
Post by: Diablo on October 06, 2013, 08:36:41 AM
It does appear to be a 6-5-1-b, not 6-4-1-b, infraction.  If so and A39 were not so close to the punt receiver, the muffed kicked may have hit the ground.  Then A could legally recover the ball.
Title: Re: KCI Razorbacks vs Gators
Post by: Rulesman on October 06, 2013, 09:46:20 AM
Close, 6-5-1b. 6-4 is Opportunity to Catch a kick, but this particular play is covered by 6-5, Fair Catch.
Like I said..."off the top of my head."
Title: Re: KCI Razorbacks vs Gators
Post by: Magician on October 07, 2013, 12:55:22 PM
That's a tough break for the kicking team member.  He's in a perfectly legal location and the muff by the returner caused it to contact him.  Be alert and ready to move if you are going to be that close.  Great get by the crew!
Title: Re: KCI Razorbacks vs Gators
Post by: dvasques on October 07, 2013, 01:03:07 PM
that was interference before the ball got to the returner by violation of the 1 yard halo in front of him
Title: Re: KCI Razorbacks vs Gators
Post by: James on October 08, 2013, 01:49:41 AM
I disagree. His position was very close, but not directly in front of the Receiver.
The KCI is because the D player made a fair catch signal, bobbled the kick and while it was still in the air the kicking team player made a grab for it.
Title: Re: KCI Razorbacks vs Gators
Post by: mccormicw on October 08, 2013, 04:19:39 AM
Great work and concentration by the B. 
Title: Re: KCI Razorbacks vs Gators
Post by: TxSkyBolt on October 08, 2013, 07:38:26 AM
and once again, the talking heads don't have a clue
Title: Re: KCI Razorbacks vs Gators
Post by: Roscoe on October 08, 2013, 09:19:36 AM
Great work and concentration by the B.

Agreed
Title: Re: KCI Razorbacks vs Gators
Post by: InsideTheStripes on October 08, 2013, 09:39:40 AM
and once again, the talking heads don't have a clue

For what it's worth, they did later make an on air correction after being contacted by the SEC office.
Title: Re: KCI Razorbacks vs Gators
Post by: dvasques on October 09, 2013, 12:08:40 AM
I disagree. His position was very close, but not directly in front of the Receiver.
The KCI is because the D player made a fair catch signal, bobbled the kick and while it was still in the air the kicking team player made a grab for it.

I agree we have KCI anyways after the muff... but I don't know I wouldn't call A player in front of the returner