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Football Officiating => Texas Topics => Topic started by: CoachTater on October 07, 2013, 10:21:52 AM
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We are playing a team that is notorious for doing the following:
The offensive line is in a 2 point stance (standing up). When they use a hard snap count to draw the defense into the neutral zone, the offensive linemen slap the defensive linemen. I assume that since they have gotten away with this for many years that it is a form of "self protection" against the oncoming rush. I get that . . . but HATE it!
Your thoughts please.
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You obviously think that A is using their shift as a tactic to gain an unfair advantage. In that case, B is not guilty of offside for provoking a response from the A linemen.
You could flag a FS for simulating the snap.
I suppose it's worth noting that the NCAA rule book section on Coaching Ethics specifically prohibits this type of play:
"Shifting in a way that simulates the start of a play or employing any other unfair tactic for the purpose of drawing one’s opponent offside. This can be construed only as a deliberate attempt to gain an unmerited advantage."
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So, you're telling me that when a team uses the second Hut as their snap count when they normally use the first Hut is illegal and against coaching ethics?
I know better than that.
I know that defensive linemen jump into the neutral zone ALL THE TIME! At the same time, offensive linemen do not have to sit there an just take a blow . . . they can protect themselves. But, slapping a defensive linemen when they come across the ball . . . I just want your thoughts.
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I think maven misunderstood your original description.
The A players do nothing to incur a False Start, the action you disapprove of is the slap to the D lineman who jumps across.
If it is a slap to the helmet you can have a foul - but I think I personally would point out to them once before throwing the flag. (As someone who only does NCAA rules -Fed might be different)
If the slap is to the shoulder - no way that you have anything.
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If the slap is to the shoulder - no way that you have anything.
I agree. If the defender is in the NZ, the 'threatened' offensive player has a right to defend his position. Would you rather he fire out and plant the guy or simply slap the shoulder to draw the flag?
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OK, thanks for the replies.