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Football Officiating => General Discussion => Topic started by: TXMike on October 31, 2013, 12:47:45 PM
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First the BS arrests of the zebras on the field and now coaches arrested for sneaking a peek at some game film!?!???! http://www.fox8live.com/story/23832332/destrehan-must-forfeit-win-over-s-lafourche
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LEO and most over at Coach Huey don't think it's much ado about nothing...
http://coachhuey.com/thread/61694/trusting-players-irresponsible-terrible
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I don't know much but "coachbry" eventually gets fired, arrested or both. He's pond scum.
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LEO and most over at Coach Huey don't think it's much ado about nothing...
http://coachhuey.com/thread/61694/trusting-players-irresponsible-terrible
I am not saying it is not a serious problem. Within the confines of "the game" yes it is. But there is a state governing body that can take the administrative action (and apparently they have) that is justified. But to take it into the criminal justice arena ?!?!?!?! Way overboard. This is a single football game we are talking about. Cheating on that merits criminal prosecution ???? I guess next thing the long arm of the law over there will do is park state troopers at every game to see if a team runs a trick play that is determined to be a foul. Then the troopers snatch up the coach and haul him off to the pokey? Ridiculous.
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I am not saying it is not a serious problem. Within the confines of "the game" yes it is. But there is a state governing body that can take the administrative action (and apparently they have) that is justified. But to take it into the criminal justice arena ?!?!?!?! Way overboard. This is a single football game we are talking about. Cheating on that merits criminal prosecution ???? I guess next thing the long arm of the law over there will do is park state troopers at every game to see if a team runs a trick play that is determined to be a foul. Then the troopers snatch up the coach and haul him off to the pokey? Ridiculous.
It's not the cheating at football that has them in trouble here. It's the unauthorized access of a computer system that has them in trouble. They committed the electronic equivalent of breaking and entering.
If they had broken into a school to get a game tape, you wouldn't be excusing that crime because it's just "cheating at football."
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You wanna go with that weak analogy then I'll stay with you. It is not breaking and entering if someone who is entrusted with the keys gives them to you knowing you will be going in.
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You wanna go with that weak analogy then I'll stay with you. It is not breaking and entering if someone who is entrusted with the keys gives them to you knowing you will be going in.
Are we playing the semantics game here?
Is it theft if the cleaning lady that you entrusted with your keys steals something from your house?
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If she "stole" my only copy of a playbook or a video I might be irked but I would not want her to go to jail. But if I had multiple copies of it so I really did not suffer a "loss" it would be even less than that
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You wanna go with that weak analogy then I'll stay with you. It is not breaking and entering if someone who is entrusted with the keys gives them to you knowing you will be going in.
It's not a weak analogy, it's the actual crime they're being charged with.
I will agree that if the team whose video they watched gave them the login credentials in order to allow them to watch the video, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Clearly, that's not what happened here.
Let's further allow that there was a third party who the victims trusted who in turn betrayed that trust and gave the login credentials to the accused so they could access the account without permission. This third party, your "someone entrusted with the keys" doesn't have the ability to make the accused access legal. In fact, this person is at least guilty of aiding and abetting.
To stay with the maid analogy, it doesn't stop being theft just because the maid let the robbers in.
In the electronic world, it doesn't matter that the victim was not deprived of physical property. When hackers steal your credit card number from a server, they've committed a crime even though you still have your credit card number. That's the crime here, although even dumber in motive.
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Not a DA in the world will prosecute someone for stealing a credit card number unless that number is used to gain something of tangible value. What does a team get for winning the game over there? ? A bigger payoff than the loser gets?
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Not a DA in the world will prosecute someone for stealing a credit card number unless that number is used to gain something of tangible value. What does a team get for winning the game over there? ? A bigger payoff than the loser gets?
I very much question your premise here.
There are many real world consequences, most of them money, to the people whose jobs are winning football games.
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What I find interesting is the parallel between this and the 'scandal' of the NSA listing to allied countries leaders telephone conversations and emails.